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  1. No matter where his characters “live”, Johnson may compose his strips with his entire readership in mind. In addition, even if the official “twilight”

  2. …ends just after 9, that does not mean that “darkness” begins immediately, especially in the north.
    P.S. Sorry about the split comment, my hand brushed the “post” button by accident.

  3. I don’t know if that’s bedtime or dawn. She might have been awakened at sunrise. Either way, I sympathize, since I have never been a morning person.

  4. Kilby, last light is about 45 minutes after sunset, which means there’s nothing to draw the curtains against anywhere in the continental United States by a quarter after 9 or so.

    (I did learn a few years ago that in Berlin, in mid-June, it doesn’t get dark until something like 1 in the morning; but we do know Arlo and Janis don’t live there)

  5. @ Bill – In addition to sunset times, the length of twilight is dependent on latitude; it lasts much longer the farther north you are(*). Your problem in Berlin may have been compounded by downtown “city glow”, out here in the suburbs it’s not that bad. We once took a vacation in Iceland in mid-summer. It’s just south of the Arctic Circle, so the sun did set, but just barely, and it never got dark.
    P.S. I have read that at the Equator, twilight is extremely short, but I’ve never had a chance to witness it for myself.

  6. After some quick google/wikipedia work: Fortuna, North Dakota has the latest sunset time of the contiguous United States of 10:03 pm (Central Daylight Time) due to it being really far north and really far west for the central time zone.

    Throw in Civil Twilight of forty minutes, Nautical Twilight of 54 minutes and Astronomical twilight of an hour and twenty minutes…Basically it is a very light time of year for them.

    The pendant part of me says: Alaska is part of the continent in “continental United States”

  7. P.S. Civil Twilight means you can see enough to work/play outside.
    Nautical Twilight means that the horizon is still visible (so sailors can take readings)
    Astonomical Twilight means the sun still affects the visibility of the fainter stars.

  8. In a few months, they’ll wake up and go to bed in darkness. Just roll with it.

  9. Perhaps (since this is Arlo and Janis) they’re not going to sleep, but just to “bed”…. And while Janis prefers dark, Arlo prefers to see?

  10. Daniel J. Drazen’s comment reminds me a lot of Robert Louis Stevenson’s “Bed In Summer” from A Child’s Garden of Verses.

  11. Kilby, Berlin is 12 1/2 degrees further north than where I live so your mid-June sunsets are about an hour and a half later than ours (“1 am” was just hyperbole), and sunrises about an hour and a half earlier. Since my sleep schedule is screwy even at home, I literally did not sleep my first two nights there.

  12. I can’t speak for A & J, but it’s not unusual for *me* to be in bed by 8:15. And having sunlight that late is bloody annoying. (Sunset tonight will be about 8:07 pm according to Google.)

  13. @Kilby: from what I remember of Congo, it was still full daylight at 6:30 and already full dark at 8:00. What amazed me, though, was the completely tilted Moon (and new stars!).

  14. Here’s my interpretation: It’s morning. Sunrise is earlier than it was several months ago. The drapes were somehow left open and the light has awakened Janice. Annoyed, she gets up, closes the drapes, and returns to bed. Arlo, who is apparently a morning person, likes the early daylight. Janice, representing someone who is not a morning person, does not appreciate daylight coming so early. She just wants to go back to sleep.

  15. I have the opposite problem. My bedroom is on the east side of the house. The longer the daylight period, the more of the morning I spend sleeping in a fairly light bedroom, even with blinds and drapes. Fortunately I have long practice. I’ve never been a morning person, and now that I’m no longer a productive member of society I can sleep fairly late.

  16. “I can’t speak for A & J, but it’s not unusual for *me* to be in bed by 8:15. ”

    I think we’ve stayed up as late as 8:15 only about twice in the last two weeks. Our most common “off to bed” period is 7 to 7:30; 6pm is not unheard of; slightly past 9pm seemed like an adventure.

  17. Have any of you Boston people ever been to Buffalo in the summertime? Same time zone but sunset is almost an hour later than Boston.

  18. I had completely forgotten about the longitude dependency when I was looking up a few representative data points for my comment above, but that explains the oddnesses that I had encountered.

  19. My latitude is about the same as Nome’s, 60 degrees north. I was coming home on a boat on a glorious summer evening, and watched the sun set in the northwest just before midnight. As we docked close to 2 am, it was dawn; the salmon red of the sky had moved to the northeast.

  20. The lack of twilight (and the lack of awareness that there *should* be a twilight 😉 is one of the things that I missed the most when I was living in Brasil. Five minutes, more ore less, is what it takes to go from daylight to darkness (so, yes, there is a 5 minute “twilight”…), the sun drops so fast you can practically hear it.

  21. Boise Ed: Probably more than you want to know, but:

    My wife has mobility issues, and several times during the night I am awakened to help her deal with them. In addition, I am a morning person (yes, I know, disgusting), and have recurrent insomnia issues of my own. So we usually wind up spending about twelve hours in bed just to manage to get seven or eight hours sleep.

    Which also partially explains why I had, sadly, to drop out of Comics Curmudgeon commenting — just not enough time left in the day for me any more for a big timesink. (CIDU is a small timesink for me– so far.)

  22. I lived one degree north of the Equator for many years. Day and night were about the same length all year long. Sun would come up about 7, go down about 7. And yes, the transitions were quick. I did not like this so much, as I find it difficult to get out of bed when it is dark.

    I used to live at about 53% N latitude and in summer we’d have sunlight until about 10. Last year I visited Edinburgh, Scotland at the end of June/start of July and it was still light at 10:30, when I’d go to bed. I’m not sure how long it stayed up. The earliest I got up during my stay was about 6:00 AM and the sun was up then.

    As for what’s happening here, with it being A&J, they got into bed about 11:00 PM and got it on, going at it all night long. Then, at about 5:00 AM, when they’re wanting to go to sleep, the sun is streaming in because they “forgot” to close the curtains.

  23. Boise Ed — no need to apologize; I got a chuckle from your line. (And if my life is a little stressful these days, it’s still happier than it was for those previous months before my wife was able to come back home to me, so I’m certainly not complaining)

    I *like* sleeping — I’m just not very good at it.

  24. By 5am the sun is up enough to light the bedroom which faces east or even the hall and bathroom which face west. I have trouble falling asleep earlier than 5 am – sometimes 6 am, occasionally 8 am.

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