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  1. Nice to see that there were two of these I hadn’t seen (or noticed) before, though I do generally follow the Argyle. And they were good ones!

    Quibble: the sort of “Internet meme” referred to in #4 generally does not, it seems to me, use JPEG for its graphics format. More often GIF or PNG. (And I don’t see that it was essential to the joke.)

    Nice idea, Bill, to do a collection from a single comic. Even if started by what happened to be sent in.

  2. I agree with Boise Ed, except that I would have liked the “split” joke even better in July (over there), or October (here).

  3. Independence Day (US, July 4) (split from Great Britain), Reunification Day (Germany, Oct. 3)

    Not really sure how either of those would enhance the joke, though.

  4. Oh, I sort of see, 7 is July, 10 is October; but I still don’t really see how it would enhance the joke.

  5. I think the suggestion was just that reference to “a 7/10 split” could be read as giving a date for it. And incidentally, that date could be taken as 7th of October, or July 10th, depending on your system. And I think Kilby was sort of saying that had it appeared around either of those dates, it would have made it somewhat topical.

  6. Normally I make it a rule never to use the same comic twice in the same post; but since I had so many Argyle queued up, I decided to do the reverse, and use nothing but Argyles.

  7. Mitch4: Alas, I bet jpeg is far better known to the unwashed than png or even gif these days, plus “gif” looks close to “gift”. So I think for the purposes of the joke, he made the right call, even though you’re of course correct in principle.

  8. On the 7-10 split panel — There’s this dark stranger who has come between them, a real rounder who doesn’t apologize for crashing into their lives, because, hey, that’s how he rolls.

  9. People use gifs (should we argue pronunciation?) mainly because you can have animated ones.

  10. ‘Quibble: the sort of “Internet meme” referred to in #4 generally does not, it seems to me, use JPEG for its graphics format. More often GIF or PNG.’

    The site I go to for memes is https://www.cheezburger.com and it’s a mix of all three. None of the “demotivational” posters are PNG: they’re all JPG except for occasional animated GIFs.

  11. Heh…I would have said “images” or “pictures” in usual usage, but here in the comic, I think both terms might have muddied the joke.

  12. Oh, and why the split? She was bowled over by a dark stranger. She had a real ball in the affair. He sensed something was up, but he couldn’t pin it down. Now he’s just tired of her games.

  13. Mitch4: It never occurred to me to take “7-10” as a date. I try hard never to use that numerical notation for the very reason you mention: confusion. Some Americans seem addled when they ask for my birthday and I tell them “the 2nd of June”; they’re just so used to the “6-2” notation that it, well, addles them.

    Bill: Do you swear to tell the Argyle, the whole Argyle, and nothing but the Argyle, so help you some deity?

    Grawlix: LOL

  14. Mitch4 nailed my split suggestion, and I agree with Boise Ed: I always use DD-Month-YYYY for dates, to eliminate any potential confusion.
    P.S. Brunswick (as in the bowling equipment manufacturer) just happens to be the English “translation” of the German city “Braunschweig” (similar to, but much less well-known than “Munich” for “München” or “Cologne” for “Köln”). German doesn’t do anything like that with English names, perhaps they should consider retaliating with “Neues Jork” (NYC) or “Die Engeln” (LA).

  15. And a nice consequence of that format is that if you use it in filenames or labels for dadabase entries, etc. , sorting by the OS’s normal collation scheme (“alphanumeric order”) will give you a chronological sorting for free.

  16. Since there’s no global standard, any system is as good as the other. Which I think why many Americans can be confused. They each seem to be an arbitrary standard.

    So most Americans use one method. Why does Europe use a different one? 🙂

  17. “Since there’s no global standard”

    ISO stands for INTERNATIONAL Standards Organization. Yes, there is a global standard. Unfortunately, there are *also* local standards, which most people use, instead.

  18. Grawlix, I mentioned one of the side benefits of the YYYY-MM-DD format Arthur gave – that it “automatically” gives you chronological order if you sort by alphanumeric order on labels in that format. Why does that work? Because the time units within one label are in decreasing order of size: years are bigger than months are bigger than days. (Also necessary for the collation to work is uniform padding.)

    It’s not quite as nifty, but day-month-year is still in order by size of unit, though increasing now. But month-day-year is not in order at all. It goes medium-small-large. That’s why many people prefer the date-frst convention.

  19. The reason for the bass-ackwards order in American (but not “English”) dates is because that’s the way a date is spoken in normal conversation. People say “April first” (4/1) (or “ March fourth“: 3/4), and not “first April” (or “fourth March“). In German, it’s the other way around: the normal way to say a date is “erster April” (1.4.) or “vierter März” (4.3.).

  20. [“Since there’s no global standard”]

    What I meant was one standard everyone uses. Obviously this is not the case. 🙂

    I’m also not sure regarding the implications of the of “some Americans” not being able to deal with “the 2nd of June” as a way of stating a date. That doesn’t strike me as an uncommon expression.

    It so happens that I have started to adopt the YYYY-etc… method for my digital files, but for everyday life one system is as good as another. 🙂

    I think it just comes down to the cultural war between the US and the rest of the world that keeps popping up from time to time regarding weights and measures, language/spelling and other standards.

    [“The reason for the bass-ackwards order in American (but not “English”) dates is because that’s the way a date is spoken in normal conversation.”]

    See? That’s perfectly logical. Why doesn’t the rest of the world understand that? 😛

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