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  1. Omg! If only I had a device with 24hr display, I could have avoided sleeping entirely through and missing Saturday altogether , as apparently I have done.

  2. Okay, I know I’m not the only one who’s lost track of days of the week. It’s Day 35 of House Arrest.

    I guess this week Saturday Morning Ewww will post on a Sunday.

  3. I did not notice the mismatched day of the week, but apparently wordpress is still doing its +/- 1 hour bobble following the DST switchovers.

  4. P.S. The Flatiron Building is reasonably famous, even outside of New York. I think I first heard about it when reading Tom Wolfe’s book “From Bauhaus to Our House“, which later led me to visit both Fallingwater and the Bauhaus facility in Dessau.

  5. Fwiw

    Yes, non-New Yorkers will recognize the Flat – Iron Building…. or… I recognize the Flat Iron Building. Maybe I should just admit I know longer have any freaking idea what other people will and won’t recognize.

    Speaking of not recognizing things…. auto correct recognizes “non-New Yorker” as “non-Jewish Yorker”. Sheesh.

  6. woozy, I often ask about that sort of thing because New Yorkers have a sense that non-New Yorkers know every last detail about our city (as well they should, because it’s freakin’ New York).

    So an occasional reality check is good (without the freakin’ Squirrel).

  7. Alas, I’d love to blame WordPress for the late post, but in fact the final step — hitting the POST button — has to physically be done. Just thinking you’d clicked it isn’t enough.

  8. “woozy, I often ask about that sort of thing because New Yorkers have a sense that non-New Yorkers know every last detail about our city (as well they should, because it’s freakin’ New York).”

    Yes, you New Yorkers do and it’s really annoying, but… the Flat iron building and the history of skyscrapers and urbanization is well known and historically significant and…. you know, nobody probably knows anything and they don’t teach anything in schools any more… (I’m having a very draining week…. but then again, who isn’t …)

  9. I’ve been wondering the last couple of days whether so many people feeling unstuck in time (to drag in another thread) is the result of a change in a cultural habit not related to what’s going on. It seems to me that definitely 20 maybe as recently as 10 years ago, people would still have a feel for what day of the week it is based on what’s on TV. Now with cord-cutting, DVR and the like, there’s less to keep you connected to the passage of time.

  10. Yes, yes we are. We like to think it’s part of our charm, but not everybody gets that.

    By the same token, a lot of New Yorkers don’t get that this was intended as humor.

  11. Nope. Read somewhere that if things are dry, they are relatively safe. Paper is safer than plastic, and safer still after an hour. Which was how long (at least) my unwrapped newspaper was lying on my doormat.

  12. There seems to be very little experimental data with SARS-COV-2 on paper. On cardboard it can remain infectious for 24 hours: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMc2004973 (New England Journal of Medicine) is the best study I’ve seen on the topic.

    The original SARS virus (SARS-COV) has been tested on paper, and one report says it can survive for up to 5 days: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7132493/

    I don’t have access to the original journal that the second paper was published in, but the abstract seems to indicate pretty good methodology.

    TLDR: if you’re reading a paper newspaper, wash your hands afterward, don’t touch your face while reading, and don’t use it as a breathing mask.

  13. There is no evidence of viral transmission via paper, though. The survival rates cited in the studies are for detectable quantities, not necessarily infectious quantities, and in laboratory conditions.

  14. Lab conditions, sure. The study I cited was actually testing for virus that could infect cells (in culture), not just RNA residues like some of the recent, terrible work on SARS-COV-2.

    There’s no evidence for transmission by any surface, actually, at least the last time I checked. It’s likely, but only suspected.

  15. When I think of a flat-iron shaped building I think of Paris… but I’m weird that way.

  16. Brian, the building with the Pharmacie facing us across the square, has always looked extra sharp edged because of the perspective.

  17. My comments are getting moderated a lot lately. It had to happen: my moderation filter is turning on me!

  18. I’m one of the least-affected people around. I haven’t been a productive member of society for over two years, and I live alone. I’m already used to, “what day is it?”

  19. For an old hobby forum I ran, I created my own filtering system. One advantage to that was that I could ask, “why did you mod that?” It would tell me the specific rule and value that caused it. There are advantages to being a software engineer.

  20. I wrote: the building with the Pharmacie facing us across the square
    but realized that sign couldn’t be seen in the small image. So here is some detail:

  21. I worked in a smallish (4-story) flatiron building near Harvard Square. It was (and still is) surrounded by Massachusetts Avenue, Bow Street and Arrow Street. There are lots of triangular buildings in Boston, although I don’t know how sharp the point has to be to be a “flatiron” building. The Boston Park Plaza Hotel, Boston University’s Myles Standish Hall, and the Buckminster Hotel are just a few.

  22. When I was a teenager, I knew the building by sight, but didn’t know it was called the “Flatiron Building.” And I lived in Yonkers.

  23. I’m not sure I get the Tom The Dancing Bug comic. If the jokes supposed to be that New Yorkers are supposed to be self-centered about being a hot spot then well, …. they haven’t really been.

  24. Also, since skewed perspective is the entire point of the original cover, what we’re seeing here is a virus that’s literally larger than the city of Detroit. What on earth is that supposed to mean?

  25. I don’t think the Tom the Dancing Bug comic is related to New Yorkers being self-centerd. That aspect of the original joke has been dropped. It’s just taking an iconic map, and saying “here’s how it is, modified by coronovirus”: basically, all we see now is coronovirus, because that’s all we’re thinking about now.

    Not really funny, or even intended to be funny, so much as a sad “this is how things are now.” On a similar note:

    https://images.dailykos.com/images/782679/story_image/1480ckCOMICsfpc143pandemic.png?1585153172

  26. Presumably Tom the dancing bug has the original as reference. So Detroit (michigan) and new Orleans, Los Angeles (california), and Washington’s are the 4 hot spots after new york.

    So that sort of does make sense. But irritating as the California hot spot is Santa Clara County which is not Los Angeles. (Actually, Alemeda county just surpassed it yesterday.)

    This is the California pet peeve: people not getting that California does not equal Los Angeles. Los Angeles is five *HUNDRED* miles from Santa Clara.

  27. I took the updated New Yorker cover to show that, as reported in the news, NY NY has (one of?) the highest density of Covid cases in the country. It really does kinda map out like that.

  28. @Arthur, several of New York City’s suburbs have higher COVID-19 rates (either death or incidence) than the City itself. I live in one.

  29. I tend to go the opposite way and assume that no one on the groups I am on (other than this one) know anything about NY, Jews, or even in some cases the US. I am on an io needlework group which came from a Yahoo group – towards the changeover of yahoo groups from actual group site to just emails, there were 4 of us left – 2 in the UK and 2 here in the US. I even translate $ to £ when writing about the cost of something. I had been translating distance and weight measurements, but have been told that do not need to do so.

    I will also note that there is a PBS show about the history of the Flat Iron building which I have seen in reruns of it. Unless they did it just to show in NY, I am guessing it has been shown on PBS stations around the country.

  30. That Super-Fun-Pak cartoon is pretty good, especially the Family Circus spoof with the dotted-line trail that instead of criss-crossing the neighborhood just does a slight loop in the yard.

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