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  1. I think hardly anyone actually knows the federal guidelines for organic produce without holding a USDA printout in front of them.

  2. I don’t think that word means what anyone thinks it means. And that might be part of the joke.

  3. I’m not aware of any definitions of organic that would preclude covering a plant. My tomatoes have been organic pretty much from the second year or so. I had some leftover fertilizer from growing potted plants I used up the first year.

  4. I planted an orange tree last spring and covered it with a blanket several times over the winter when the temperature threatened to get to freezing. It seems to be still alive, barely, and I have hopes that the summer will strengthen it. All this gives me great sympathy for Janis.

    As for “organic,” well, it “contain[s] carbon and [is] of chiefly … of biological origin.”

  5. I still want to have a store that advertises that everything is organic. With a stack of brochures explaining the concept of organic chemistry to give to everyone who complains about the fact that it’s just random stuff made of plastic. I do suspect, given how things get lumped together, that there are people who have bought into the “organic= good” and “plastic=bad” trends so strongly that they would assume that organic stuff needs to not have plastic involved.

  6. Christine, would your store be allowed to sell water? Would the plastic bottle make that OK?

    At the grocery store, I regularly ask things like “Where are the bananas that aren’t organic?” (Meaning, I see these organically grown bananas, but I would like other, presumably cheaper, bananas.) The wording is a little awkward, and I’m always tempted to ask “Where are the inorganic bananas?”

  7. Christine: Surely the water refills would be forbidden? The water is inorganic, it’s only the plastic bottle that could make it organic (as your store defines it).

  8. Oh, of course. No refills. Just an initial fill, as a free gift (not something I’m selling) with the purchase of the bottle.

  9. At the risk of being (politely, because that’s our culture) chided here, I’ve always dreamed of opening a store or restaurant called “Unnatural Foods.”

    I was reminded again this week how much I love canned peas and canned wax beans, and how much I dislike “fresh from the garden” varieties of both. Ewww — they taste like *nature*!

    But I try to be a nice guy, so I won’t. Er, whoops, I guess I just did. (Also because I don’t have several tens of thousands of dollars to throw away on a failed cafe startup. And such patrons as I did get would probably be megajerks, unlike moi, who is only a genial semi-jerk.)

  10. WW: I think Cost Plus World Market, or maybe Bed Bath and Beyond, sells inorganic bananas

  11. Some towns have banned plastic water bottles. I have not seen how such water is sold there.

    As far as the bananas mentioned above, I’d say “regular” or “non-organic”.

  12. Grawlix – wouldn’t they sell spring water or whatever just from the refill stations?

  13. I just remember the news coverage of the towns here in the Boston area that dared to ban plastic bottles. I now see that the law is more complicated than I wish to describe here, so those interested may check the link here and scroll down to “Concord, Massachusetts” for info on its implementation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottled_water_ban

    In short, some plastic bottles are allowed to be sold. This other article mentions water fountains installed all over Concord. https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2018/06/05/a-look-at-concords-plastic-water-bottle-ban-five-years-in

  14. sorry about the post before this repeating what someone else already posted -and this one taking it back.

    (Hey, my mind is rapidly going – it took me 10 minutes today to remember where I keep the #10 envelopes and it is out in full view with – all the other envelopes.

  15. NYS passed a law that the “one time use” plastic bags could not be given out by stores any longer. Counties/cities were allowed to pass a law with a 5c charge required for paper bags and if same was not done in a county/city then stores were allowed to charge what they want for the paper bags (and per an email I received from NYS Tax – sales tax is not charged on the 5c fee, but it is charged on the amount charged by stores in the non-fee areas – most stores are charging 10c a bag at the local rate of 8.0625% even one bag when same is rounded up gets 1c in sales tax).

    This was not going to be an easy thing to do to begin with – and it was scheduled to start March 1. So it kicked in just about when everyone started empty the stores of everything – and a good number of people had no idea of the law. By about a week and a half in, stores that had run out of the paper bags (not expecting the run on food) were putting out the plastic bags again – and saying “take them to use” (there was a one month phase in before they would be fined) and now the law is in suspension.

    I figure I have a 5-10 year supply of the “one use” bags and when we run out of those – I have a few years worth of paper bags also. (And Robert has said to me in the past more than once – “Stores always have bags – why save them?”

  16. We don’t have any regulations regarding reusable bags, but the national grocery chain that still offers plastic bags no longer lets you bring your own. (This is stronger than their initial discouraging of it, when they suspended the bag fee and encouraged you to bring your own bags, and you definitely would have to bag your own groceries, as if that was a disincentive.) I’m probably going to switch to the national chain that no longer has plastic bags for this week (I normally go to the other, because they carry soy milk that my family will drink, however it appears that that brand is not currently available, so I might as well go to the close store rather than the bike ride distance one.) I don’t know how they’re managing right now, so I’ll find out.

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