Smell

Cidu Bill on Nov 21st 2017

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35 Responses to “Smell”

  1. PeterW Nov 21st 2017 at 12:12 am 1

    He never does the dishes, so why should he get a say in what the dish soap smells like?

  2. Cidu Bill Nov 21st 2017 at 12:44 am 2

    True — but then why DOES he want her to buy this detergent? The entire sequence just doesn’t make any sense.

  3. Arthur Nov 21st 2017 at 12:47 am 3

    He found a product he likes - it smells good. He’s a child, and
    doesn’t think it through that he’ll never smell it once they get
    it home.

  4. Mona Nov 21st 2017 at 01:14 am 4

    I agree with Arthur’s explanation. I don’t know the age of the boy. He’s a kid and he’s at the store with Mom. Kids like to choose stuff and they like to feel they are helping. Instead of either buying the soap he chose or tactfully suggesting a different one, Mom shoots him down with a snide remark. A thoughtful Mom might have agreed to the fragrance but in her usual brand. And then once at home, perhaps she could have coerced him into helping with the dishes using “his” soap.

  5. Kilby Nov 21st 2017 at 07:32 am 5

    I think that rather than objecting to his reasoning (and complaining about his lack of help), she should be objecting to the fact that he popped the cap to smell the contents.

  6. Ted from Ft. Laud Nov 21st 2017 at 07:49 am 6

    Mona - I don’t know how old he is either, but he appears to be old enough to survive a bit of snark. I was brought up with a hefty dose and I made it. (I personally think a little less coddling in that way would have made the current generation a little less overly sensitive. And stay off my lawn…)

  7. Chip Nov 21st 2017 at 08:50 am 7

    I’m with Mona@4 here. Mom missed a good teachable moment.

  8. SpuddyBuddy Nov 21st 2017 at 10:03 am 8

    All of you are making good points, but still… It is not very clear, it doesn’t really make a joke, and it doesn’t make a point very well, and all of us even those who “get” what is being said is left feeling incomplete, as if the whole story/point/joke is not completely told, and that’s too bad because there was certainly enough frames to tell the story/point/joke.

    CIDU for me, even after the explanations.

  9. Andréa Nov 21st 2017 at 10:21 am 9

    Kilby@5: I ALWAYS pop the tops to smell the contents . . . some scents give me instant headaches and I need to know that before I buy the product. (I’m also the person in the store who pushes all the “TRY ME” buttons on the animated stuffed toys . . . .)

  10. Mitch4 Nov 21st 2017 at 11:35 am 10

    Kilby’s point at 5 is exactly what I was wondering while reading it.

  11. Caractacus Potts Nov 21st 2017 at 12:29 pm 11

    I don’t see anywhere that indicated he opened the products
    when I come into the kitchen and someone is washing the dishes, the kitchen (and sometimes the entire floor) smells like the soap
    so maybe this fine good mannered boy has noticed the smell comes from the dish soap and has decided on a preference
    as a parent I would have asked how he came to know how they all smell, and had a conversation
    but that would be a horrible comic, eh?

  12. Scott Nov 21st 2017 at 01:07 pm 12

    I’m guessing the kid saw an ad for that brand on TV, and the ad talks about how good the detergent smells.

  13. Winter Wallaby Nov 21st 2017 at 02:38 pm 13

    The mom doesn’t even seem that snarky to me. This seems like a normal, reasonable thing for a kid to do, and also a normal, non-sarcastic question from a parent. (Which means it also doesn’t seem like much of a joke.)

  14. Brian in STL Nov 21st 2017 at 03:34 pm 14

    There’s no burn like a Mom burn. I mean, you expect them out of Dad.

  15. Christine Nov 21st 2017 at 05:15 pm 15

    I would be more inclined to phrase it as “do you agree to do the dishes if I buy this?” Otherwise I’m passing up a chance at free labour (I mean, I bribe the kids to do their chores, but if that will reduce the arguments, it’s worth it.)

    Actually, I lie. It is never worth buying a smelly dish soap to convince the kids to do the dishes. Because they quickly forget that they agreed, and then you’re stuck using the dang thing, and you’ve got two headaches - one from the argument and one from the dish soap. (My mom bought my sister a scented dish detergent once. My poor mother had to do all the dishes herself, even though I was home for a visit, because I flat-out refused to put myself through that, especially since it was my sister’s fault that the dish soap was nasty, it was logically her place to do them.)

  16. Kilby Nov 22nd 2017 at 05:23 am 16

    @ CP (11) - How does one smell the contents without opening the bottle? Most such products are sealed quite well(*), otherwise the supermarket “cleansing products” aisle would be even worse of a cacophony of stench than it already is.

    P.S. (*) - Although well sealed, many such products do not have a “tamper-proof” lid, because they are not intended for consumption.

  17. Brian in STL Nov 25th 2017 at 10:42 pm 17

    I was at the supermarket tonight and checked. The dish-washing detergent bottles have a flip cap but no other seal. You can easily do a sniff test on the contents.

  18. James Pollock Nov 26th 2017 at 02:17 am 18

    “The dish-washing detergent bottles have a flip cap but no other seal.”

    The detergent bottles for automatic dishwashers, in the store(s) where I bought same, were sealed at the neck with a tough-to-peel-off disc of waxed paper.

  19. Brian in STL Nov 26th 2017 at 02:49 pm 19

    I would not doubt that. I checked the sort of bottles that are featured in the comic in question.

  20. James Pollock Nov 26th 2017 at 03:23 pm 20

    “I checked the sort of bottles that are featured in the comic in question.”

    Ah. The “unnamed, unspecified” sort. Gotcha.

  21. Olivier Nov 27th 2017 at 06:00 am 21

    Products for dishwashers are more dangerous, apparently (so, sealed, child-proof, etc.: my mother is always careful with my nephews who want to help).
    The comic mentions the sink so I guess hand dish-washing detergent bottles are implied, like this http://www.proxilivre.fr/2237-2286-thickbox/liquide-vaisselle-paic-citron-750-ml-entretien-cuisine.jpg that one can “open” and check for smell in the store. Not dangerous, I expect : I use it when the hand-soap is gone. They look like what’s shown in the comic.

  22. Brian in STL Nov 27th 2017 at 02:46 pm 22

    “Ah. The “unnamed, unspecified” sort. Gotcha.”

    I disagree with that. The bottle held up is clearly of the hand-dishwashing sort. The bottles for automatic washing are larger and in particular have much larger spouts.

    https://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/10127449/prod_ec_2122843602?hei=1000&wid=1000&op_sharpen=1

    http://ghk.h-cdn.co/assets/cm/15/12/55091aa62cfce-ghk-cascade-complete-gel-xl.jpg

    Additionally the mother mentions being near the sink. While dishwashers do usually empty into a common drain with the sink, in my experience there’s no difference in odor with the scented detergent.

    I don’t see any reasonable way to think that the comic applied to anything other than say Dawn or Ajax or other dishwashing detergents that come in that sort of bottle and are then squirted into sinks of wash water.

  23. James Pollock Nov 27th 2017 at 04:46 pm 23

    ” The bottle held up is clearly of the hand-dishwashing sort.”

    Apparently, the word “clearly” means something different to you than it does to me.
    I don’t think it means “if you make the same assumptions that I do, and refuse to consider alternatives”, but if it does, then you’d be correct.

    “I don’t see any reasonable way to think that the comic applied to anything other than say Dawn or Ajax or other dishwashing detergents that come in that sort of bottle and are then squirted into sinks of wash water.”

    Your ability to reason doesn’t alter the fact that the comic doesn’t specify a brand, or even a type, of product in the bottle. All we get is that it’s a dish detergent, and it has a pleasant smell. That description CAN apply to say Dawn or Ajax or other dishwashing detergents which are squirted into sinks of wash water, but it can also apply to dishwashing detergents which are squirted into automatic dishwashers.

  24. Brian in STL Nov 28th 2017 at 02:32 pm 24

    Can you produce an image of a bottle of automatic detergent that looks like the one she’s holding? I have already produced a hand-washing bottle image very similar.

    You don’t like when people challenge you here, and will go through great lengths to avoid admitting you were wrong.

  25. James Pollock Nov 28th 2017 at 03:17 pm 25

    You’re trying to assign ME homework, because YOU don’t want to admit you’re wrong?

  26. Brian in STL Nov 28th 2017 at 03:35 pm 26

    I have done mine. Did you look at the images I posted? If you can’t counter what I have provided, then you’re just arguing because you can’t admit a mistake.

  27. James Pollock Nov 28th 2017 at 05:21 pm 27

    You’re STILL trying to assign ME homework, because YOU don’t want to admit you’re wrong?

  28. larK Nov 28th 2017 at 06:25 pm 28

    I maintain that the detergent in the comic is identical to the teapot which is currently in orbit around the sun. Until you prove beyond a doubt that it is not, I insist that my assertion be regarded as true!

  29. Winter Wallaby Nov 28th 2017 at 07:09 pm 29

    larK #28: Also, the invisible pink unicorn in panel 4 is clearly stating that it’s for liquid for an automatic dishwasher!

  30. Brian in STL Nov 28th 2017 at 07:43 pm 30

    Like I said, James, I have provided some images. You have not stated why you think that those are not sufficient. You have not provided any counter other than, “I say so.”

    I went to a little bit of effort to show why I thought that there is no way that it can be automatic dishwasher detergent depicted. The bottle is the wrong shape, the wrong size, and has the wrong cap from what is shown in the strip. While that is not meant to be an engineering drawing, that doesn’t mean that it can represent anything you want.

    The woman also mentions sinks and dirty dishes, and while doesn’t specifically say anything about hand-washing those dirty dishes in the sink, it’s (to my mind) more reasonable than to conclude that it refers to washing them in a dishwasher.

    You made a suggestion, which I couldn’t say out of hand was correct or not. I showed you the respect of researching it. I found that the evidence I could see did not support your contention. You didn’t take that well.

    You haven’t produced anything that supports your statements. I made a suggestion of how you could support that. You didn’t take that well.

    You can keep stamping your foot saying that you won’t do homework, but that’s your choice. So, do you have ANY evidence to support your statements? I won’t “assign” you anything.

  31. James Pollock Nov 28th 2017 at 11:18 pm 31

    “Like I said, James, I have provided some images. You have not stated why you think that those are not sufficient.”

    Your argument is “I don’t see any reasonable way to think that the comic applied to anything other than say Dawn or Ajax”.
    The pictures that you are so proud of are of a brand of dishwasher soap that does not match the brand shown in the cartoon. This does not prove your argument.
    To prove your argument, you would need to come up with a picture that shows that no automatic dishwasher soap could possibly come in a container anything like the one in the cartoon.

    “You have not provided any counter other than, ‘I say so.’ ”
    I have argued that the cartoon does not specify a brand (or type) of dishwashing liquid. YOU are the one insisting that it MUST be a specific type, because of your own assumptions.

    “it’s (to my mind) more reasonable than to conclude that it refers to washing them in a dishwasher.”
    Fair enough. But then you jumped to “it’s entirely unreasonable to entertain the possibility that it could be either one, or even a hypothetical product that can be used either for hand washing of dishes or automatic.”

    “You haven’t produced anything that supports your statements.”
    The comic above supports my statements 100%, and nothing additional is needed.

    “I made a suggestion of how you could support that. You didn’t take that well.”
    I rejected your suggestion as being without merit. Had to do it more than once, in fact. You didn’t take that well.

    “You can keep stamping your foot saying that you won’t do homework, but that’s your choice.”
    Well, no… that’s just how it works. You’ve made the claim that the product in this cartoon MUST be hand dishwashing liquid and CANNOT POSSIBLY be automatic dishwashing liquid. As the person advancing a claim, it is up to you, and you alone, to do the homework and produce evidence that supports your claim. Thus far, you have failed to do so.
    It’s possible, even likely, that the author/artist intended to portray a generic type of hand dishwashing liquid. But the clues provided do not lead to that conclusion to the exclusion of all others, and this is why your claim fails.

    “do you have ANY evidence to support your statements?”
    Do I have ANY evidence that the cartoon above does not specify any brand or specific type of product?
    Uh, yeah. Scroll up until you can see the cartoon. Do you see any brand name? Any reference to a specific product, or even type of product? No? I suggest to you that this is suitable evidence that the cartoon above does not specify any brand or type of product.

    You’re free to imagine that it does, to your heart’s content. But it still won’t. And the joke works either way.
    Have a nice day.
    But get over it.

  32. Arthur Nov 29th 2017 at 12:11 am 32

    I have a suggestion:
    Don’t feed the trolls.

  33. Brian in STL Nov 29th 2017 at 02:53 pm 33

    Do you have ANY evidence that supports your position? What you have provided does not as it’s just, “You haven’t proved a negative.” I could claim that it’s actually a bottle of milk. You can’t prove that it isn’t.

    I would consider an example, ANY example, that fits to be sufficient. You have not provided one.

  34. James Pollock Nov 29th 2017 at 03:09 pm 34

    “Don’t feed the trolls.”

    Advice taken.

  35. Brian in STL Nov 29th 2017 at 03:22 pm 35

    I just can’t help myself.

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