Cidu Bill on Nov 17th 2017


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31 Responses to “Color”

  1. Regulator Machine Nov 17th 2017 at 12:29 am 1

    made me laugh, I don’t know why

  2. PeterW Nov 17th 2017 at 12:43 am 2

    I don’t know if it’s a reference to anything specific, but clearly the already depressed man has had a breakdown triggered by the name of the color on the empty crayon sleeve reminding him of the woman he lost, who probably just died. And maybe he already can’t remember the color of her hair.

  3. PeterW Nov 17th 2017 at 12:44 am 3

    Maybe she died of cancer and lost her hair long before she died.

  4. Stan Nov 17th 2017 at 01:25 am 4

    Yes, it’s someone he’s lost, who’s either dead or she’s left him. He’s looking at her picture in the first panel. I think he’s imagining the name of the crayon though, sort of Walter Mitty style, but which itself might be the colour of her hair.

  5. Big Chief Nov 17th 2017 at 02:39 am 5

    Aside from the interesting art, isn’t this rather Winkerbean-ish?

  6. Minor Annoyance Nov 17th 2017 at 02:44 am 6

    My first thought was maybe there’s a song lyric somewhere (there are several on the theme of trying to forget), but it does work without an exterior reference.

  7. Stocky Al Nov 17th 2017 at 06:31 am 7

    “She’s Not There” by the Zombies, or possibly “Windmills of your Mind” (various).

  8. John in Tronna Nov 17th 2017 at 06:32 am 8

    “She’s Not There” by the Zombies?

  9. Ian D Osmond Nov 17th 2017 at 08:34 am 9

  10. Terrence Feenstra Nov 17th 2017 at 09:03 am 10

    This is not funny. It is poignant. I can’t speak for Mona, but I think she would agree with me.

  11. Arseetoo Nov 17th 2017 at 10:53 am 11

    Re TF (#10)… Agreed. As someone who lost his wife over 10 years ago, there are still little things (songs, pictures) that will trigger me to outright sobbing. Stuff like that just does not go away.

  12. Christine Nov 17th 2017 at 11:06 am 12

    I don’t think this was supposed to be quite as dark as it’s been interpreted here. I thought the joke was that he didn’t know what colour “her” hair was, and that this was a source of stress for him - perhaps because she got upset about it, and accused him of not paying attention. (Maybe she’s an ex, due in part to this?)

  13. John Small Berries Nov 17th 2017 at 11:28 am 13

    I think the interpretations here are correct; in the first panel, he’s looking somberly at a framed photograph.

  14. larK Nov 17th 2017 at 11:32 am 14

    My first reaction was more akin to Christine, that it is somehow more bizarre than anything else, a kindergarden teacher in a black and white world, asked to identify a crayon color that deliberately refuses to be helpful - it was the last straw for his breakdown. But almost immediately I noticed details, like the picture he’s looking at first frame, and how depressed he looks, which makes me see it as Terrence Feenstra and Arseetoo, and almost makes me ashamed of my first, more innocent reaction…

  15. Kilby Nov 17th 2017 at 01:00 pm 15

    As others have noticed, there is something slightly dark and disturbing about this strip, but that is not unusual for PBF, which frequently delves into surreal and/or gruesome humor. There’s nothing inherently wrong with presenting such material, and there is clearly an audience for it, otherwise both “Cyanide & Happiness” and “Funky Winkerbean” would have closed down and disappeared long ago. There is, however, a fundamental difference: PBF and C&H were designed to be the way they are right from their respective beginnings. If Batuik had started on that path right away, or if he had created a new strip in which to exercise his morbid fascination with sickness and death, I doubt that anyone would have had cause for objection. There simply are people who like to read that sort of stuff (which is why there are still so many soap opera strips in existence). Unfortunately, Batuik decided to take an existing strip that was funny and delightful, and perverted it to become a painful soap opera. Preserving the name of the strip and the characters causes readers not just to mourn Lisa’s death, but also the death of a comic strip that used to be enjoyable. It would have been better to bury it and start over.

  16. Joseph K. Nov 17th 2017 at 01:31 pm 16

    Just to clarify, the inscription on the crayon is what he is thinks when he sees it, not, obviously, what it actually says. Her hair was, say, gold, and when he sees the word “gold” he is reminded of his ex and her beautiful hair. Poor guy.

  17. Kilby Nov 17th 2017 at 01:44 pm 17

    I think Joseph K. is right on the money @16, and I also like the fact that this strip was executed in black & white (even though some other PBF strips are done in superb color). Leaving the specific color ambiguous heightens the psychological effect.

  18. Winter Wallaby Nov 17th 2017 at 03:53 pm 18

    Kilby #15: When I read PBF I often feel like the author was trying to think of something funny, and because of his sense of humor, came up with something a little dark or gruesome. When I read C&H I usually feel like the author was trying to come up with something dark or gruesome, and whether it also turned out to be funny was more incidental.

    Obviously, YMMV, as many people like C&H.

  19. Stan Nov 17th 2017 at 08:23 pm 19

    “I think Joseph K. is right on the money @16″

    Hey! I said that at 4! I want my props!

  20. Mary McNeil Nov 17th 2017 at 09:06 pm 20

    Song lyric - “for a moment you could not recall/
    the color of her hair…”

    Stocky Al has it - The Windmills of Your Mind ! Couldn’t place it - myself !

  21. Kevin A Nov 17th 2017 at 11:24 pm 21

    Brilliant! I thought of “She’s Not There” immediately, but while the image is deep, it wasn’t the right feeling. I think “The Windmills of your Mind” could be one the most famous unknown songs of all time.” (Now I want to go watch the Thomas Crown Affair again (I didn’t know/remember it had featured the song) AND I want to find an episode of “The Girl from U.N.C.L.E.”. )

    (I re-watched a couple of years worth of the Man from U.N.C.L.E two years ago on one of the major network side-channels. The “Girl..” must be somewhere.)

  22. My names not going on this Nov 17th 2017 at 11:43 pm 22

  23. Kilby Nov 17th 2017 at 11:52 pm 23

    @ Stan (19) - You have a point, but I didn’t get it until I saw the new comment. The expressions are not quite the same.

  24. Singapore Bill Nov 18th 2017 at 12:49 am 24

    He’s been teaching them to read and write and he’s broken that the children have spelled colour incorrectly.

  25. Kilby Nov 18th 2017 at 10:13 am 25

    @ WW (18) - I should have mentioned an additional difference @15: I like PBF, and keep a bookmark to the PBF RSS-feed so that I won’t miss any of its (alas, very infrequent) updates. I totally ignore the other two strips, except for the rare occasions when one of them shows up here.

  26. BeckoningChasm Nov 18th 2017 at 06:11 pm 26

    I think this would work better if he was weeping in the fourth panel. As it is, he looks like he’s huddling prior to a beating, so he can shield his face from the blows.

  27. jajizi Nov 18th 2017 at 10:41 pm 27

    More song lyrics -

    Wenn ich im gelben Felde geh’,
    Seh’ ich von fern das blonde Haar
    Im Winde weh’n!
    O weh!

    Mahler, Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen

    “When I go through golden fields,
    I see from afar her blonde hair blowing in the wind!
    Oh, woe!

  28. Boise Ed Nov 21st 2017 at 02:28 am 28

    Arseetoo [11]: I do understand. I remember the exact shade of her hair.

    Kilby [15]: I don’t know Batiuk’s personal history, but I can guess. Personally, I don’t mnd the way he’s handled it. It has been poignant, not soppy, to me.

    Joseph [16]: That’s a good interpretation. I’ll buy that.

    Singapore Bill [24]: Pffft

  29. Cidu Bill Nov 21st 2017 at 02:49 am 29

    Kilby, I think somebody mentioned here that the fascination with Lisa and her death in the Funkyverse — because, you know, what happened to her was so unique — is so great that Les has now written a trilogy of best-sellers about her.

  30. Kilby Nov 21st 2017 at 08:11 am 30

    @ Boise Ed (28) - Re-reading my comment @15, I have to admit that I went much too far into “negative screed” territory. I just have never liked any of the “soap opera” strips (especially not “Spider Man”). As a kid, I used to wonder why they put such junk on the “comics” page. Comics were supposed to be at least “fun”, if not “funny”, and soap operas never fit either category.

  31. Stan Nov 23rd 2017 at 11:44 pm 31

    “You have a point”

    Apology accepted.

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