Cidu Bill on Sep 11th 2017


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  1. fleabane Sep 11th 2017 at 12:35 am 1

    The are both French words.

  2. fleabane Sep 11th 2017 at 12:39 am 2

    Deep down Americans don’t believe in foreign words. At some level they believe people just use those words to sound pretentious. Or some do– the vast majority don’t and say duvet and souffle all the time. But those that don’t and can’t help but thing the rest are putting on airs.

  3. James Pollock Sep 11th 2017 at 12:55 am 3

    Dave Barry revealed the truth about “foreign languages” several decades ago.

    All those people in other countries speak English. They just pretend to be using a “foreign language” for the tourists… people pay more for a le cheeseburguer. All you have to do to get them to understand you is to speak slower and louder until they admit they really speak English, too.

    If you want to be pretentious, you just play along. But be careful. Those sneaky foreigners will pretend the local cuisine includes a bunch of disgusting things, and they’re just waiting to see if they get you to eat deep-fried spiders, or snails, or raw fish.

    You know it has to be true. Dave Barry was printed in the newspaper!

  4. Findus Sep 11th 2017 at 02:38 am 4

    Olivier? Could you please clarify this? Is the blanket édredon, and the meaning of duvet in French is down? I had to look it up, and only now discovered that the slightly ‘pretentious’ term used in German, plumeau, is not the real french term for a blanket stuffed with feathers either.
    As for the cartoon, I think the cartoonist had a specific food in mind that sounds like duvet as pronounced in English, though I have no idea what that could be.

  5. Stan Sep 11th 2017 at 04:11 am 5

    Either way, I’d perfer the fish fillet. Or a parfait. Or pate. Or sorbet. Or curds and whey. Or chips.

  6. Kilby Sep 11th 2017 at 04:11 am 6

    @ Findus (4) - That word is so pretentious that I have never heard anyone use it here. In Germany, the object that Americans refer to as a “duvet“(*) would normally be called “Decke” (blanket), but they are also frequently referred to as “Betten” (beds), which never ceases to confuse me.

    P.S. (*) - I heartily dislike the use of “duvet” in English, but I have yet to discover an equally precise term for them. The reason that I cannot excape the term(s) for them is that they are virtually universal all across Germany: I don’t think I have ever run into a German bed that was not covered by one of them (this applies both to private homes and every hotel or bed & breakfast I’ve ever visited).

  7. Olivier Sep 11th 2017 at 04:31 am 7

    Yes :”duvet / édredon”: it’s the same ,”a blanket stuffed with feathers” because “un édredon” is full of “duvet”(down in English).

    Here’s “un plumeau”: http://cdn3-elle.ladmedia.fr/var/plain_site/storage/images/deco/pratique/rangements/produits-d-entretien-et-accessoires-pour-le-menage/un-plumeau-a-plumes-d-autruche/51298326-1-fre-FR/Un-plumeau-a-plumes-d-autruche.jpg

    Now, what food name would sound like “duvet”? Maybe “du vin”(= wine), but her glass is full. “Du veau”(= veal)?
    Or maybe “duvet” is the only foreign word she knows how to pronounce and she doesn’t want to sound like a commoner by ordering a burger ?

  8. DemetriosX Sep 11th 2017 at 05:29 am 8

    The English word equivalent to duvet is comforter. Some people (and I think it may be regional) will use the word for an ordinary quilt, but properly it refers to a down-filled blanket. Americans may be the only people who still tuck in their top sheets. It certainly didn’t take long for me to get used to it. It’s nice to be able to stick a foot out when things get too warm and you can make the bed with a quick shake in the morning. Of course, the trade-off is that putting the comforter in a fresh cover (which we talked about briefly here: http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2017/08/11/8-covers/) is a major hassle. There’s even a joke that traditional sheet-covered ghosts are people who died trying to get the comforter in a fresh cover.

    Perhaps the weirdest thing about Germans calling the things “beds” is when someone is coming for an overnight stay and they ask if they should bring their beds with them. I suppose in that sense it’s more equivalent to “bedding”.

  9. Kilby Sep 11th 2017 at 06:50 am 9

    @ DemetriosX (8) - Comforter is close, but not quite right, because a normal comforter is not “covered” in an external blanket pocket(*). That said, I like your “bedding” solution.

    P.S. (*) - It’s actually rather simple to get the cover over the filling: all you have to do is turn the cover inside-out before starting. Then you grab through the cover to hold the far corners, and then grab the corresponding corners of the filling from inside with the same hands, and shake the cover down over the duvet. Since the covers normally turn nearly completely inside out when they are removed, we simply wash, fold, and store the covers in inside-out form.

  10. Mitch4 Sep 11th 2017 at 08:00 am 10

    Gee, I don’t think I’ve ever encountered the term “édredon” but it confusingly resembles the familiar “eiderdown”. I had assumed the latter was just the down of one of the birds in the duck/goose family called an eider. But could there be some sound-copying, in either direction?

  11. Olivier Sep 11th 2017 at 08:10 am 11

    At the beginning of chapter XI from Jules Verne’s “Journey to the center of Earth”, we meet Hans, the “eider hunter”, actually a down gatherer.
    “Ce duvet s’appelle l’édredon”(=this down is called eiderdown). So, yes, eider down lead directly to “édredon”.

  12. Kilby Sep 11th 2017 at 08:40 am 12

    Q:How does one get down from an elephant?

    A:One does not get down from an elephant. One gets down from a duck.

  13. DemetriosX Sep 11th 2017 at 09:02 am 13

    @Kilby (9): That’s the theory, sure, and it generally works in a two-person operation. But the covers we have (all from IKEA, so maybe that’s the problem) all have an opening that’s too narrow for that to work (especially with the winter comforter). Everything jams up and if you’re doing it alone the effort of getting everything in almost invariably works the top corners loose. It is a little easier for single-sized covers. Maybe that’s why so many married couples still use two twins on their double beds.

    And an image search on comforter turns up as many “naked” comforters as those with built-in protection.

  14. Wendy Sep 11th 2017 at 11:04 am 14

    To me, a comforter is similar to a duvet, except that it has a pretty outer cover that is not removable and is usually filled with a fluffy synthetic or cottony fill, not feathers. The duvet can be filled with either, but is usually white, and you buy decorative covers to put over it. I guess I tend to think of duvets as naked comforters.

    I’ve never tried a duvet, as I figured there would be annoying slippage between the duvet and the cover and I’d have to fool with it every morning or even in the middle of the night. Many hotels in America have duvets without a special cover, they just sandwich it between 2 layers of flat sheets. We usually remove it and just keep the double sheet as the right amount of cover.

    Comforters are very different from quilts, and are much lighter (in actual weight), though I don’t know which is actually warmer. It was all mostly moot to me growing up in Florida, as you don’t need more than a sheet most of the year anyway.

  15. Kilby Sep 11th 2017 at 11:35 am 15

    @ DemetriosX (13) - We have a few covers that have a zippered opening that’s slightly narrower than the width of the filling, and that can make the operation a little harder.

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a queen-sized duvet, all the beds I’ve seen have two twins. I think the main reason for using them rather than one big one is simply that with a cover that large (7′x7′ = 50 square ft), there would be a delaminating effect between the cover and the filling. (That’s the reason that quilts are quilted: it keeps the outside from detaching from the interior filling.) There’s also the “temperature” (and realted “fresh air”) issue that you touched on @ 8, which definitely speaks in favor of using two twins.

  16. Brian in STL Sep 11th 2017 at 11:57 am 16

    For a long time I had no idea what a duvet was or why it needed a cover. A few years ago I looked it up online. I thought that sounded unnecessarily complex versus a simple comforter. Then again, of more use than dust ruffles or pillows that you remove before using the bed.

  17. Christine Sep 11th 2017 at 01:41 pm 17

    Brian in STL - the advantage of a duvet is that the weight to insulation ratio is much more favourable. This is useful because the thermal mass is lower, so unlike a lot of warm blankets, it doesn’t chill you before it warms you. Synthetic duvets, on the other hand, don’t make a lot of sense to me. Not if you’re using a top sheet. (Then again, considering how my husband and daughter sleep, expecting the sheet to protect a comforter is a bit much, so having a washable cover is useful.)

  18. Kilby Sep 11th 2017 at 02:11 pm 18

    A “duvet” comforter was originally somewhat of a luxury item: good ones were (and still are) filled with down (and/or soft, small feathers), and were (and still are) relatively expensive. With the down filling, the are also effectively unwashable. The cover ensures that the majority of the dirt doesn’t onto (or into) the actual duvet. Moisture (meaning sweat) is also a problem; in some areas, it is not uncommon to see a couple of duvets folded across the threshold of an open window, allowing them to air out and dry. There are now services that specialize in washing (or dry cleaning) down-filled duvets, but this is generally not something that you would want to do every month, or even every year.

  19. Cidu Bill Sep 11th 2017 at 02:39 pm 19

    Now I’m trying to figure out what sort of blanket we used at my grandmother’a home: all I remember was the massive weight of it, reminding me of the lead vest the dentist put over you during x-rays.

  20. zbicyclist Sep 11th 2017 at 03:06 pm 20

    I think Oliver #7 has it. She meant to order veal, but in her high school French mispronounced it.

    Winter cyclists are likely to endlessly make the joke about confusing baklava (tasty, sticky Greek dessert) and balaklava (winter head covering). The fact that both baklava and winter cycling involve layers adds to the joke.

  21. Christine Sep 11th 2017 at 04:27 pm 21

    Kilby - I suspect that weights & measures around here, or whoever is in charge of dictating the meanings of terms commercially, still defines “duvet” as containing down, because I always see “synthetic duvet” expressly advertised, suggesting that if they tried to sell those as duvets they’d be in trouble. Unfortunately, duvet covers do very little when you have a small child who occasionally gets bodily fluids onto her bedding. Washing them isn’t too bad, but the drying is a pain. (I am so excited to have moved to where I can dry clothes outside in the sun.)

  22. Lord Jubjub Sep 11th 2017 at 05:13 pm 22

    Feather bed is the term I’ve seen used to describe a stuffed bed cover.

  23. Ian D Osmond Sep 11th 2017 at 05:54 pm 23

    I think it’s a joke about how weird English spelling is. Souffle and duvet rhyme.

  24. DemetriosX Sep 11th 2017 at 06:24 pm 24

    @Kilby(15): We’ve always used a queen-size duvet and there’s never been a problem with the filling clumping or that sort of thing. It certainly offers benefits over two twins. And washing down-filled items doesn’t seem to be a problem any more. We have several things like pillows and duvets which are definitely down-filled, but are stated to be washable. Drying the duvets is a hassle, but the pillows work great in the dryer if you toss in a couple of clean tennis balls to help with fluffing.

  25. Arthur Sep 11th 2017 at 07:29 pm 25

    I haven’t had a chance to try it yet, but there’s what purports
    to be an easy, quick way to get the duvet into its cover. You
    can find at least one with the search:
    site:youtube.com duvet burrito

  26. Mark in Boston Sep 11th 2017 at 08:11 pm 26

    I bought what I thought was a fake-fur blanket, market down as a clearance item, but it turned out to be a fake-fur duvet cover.

    But I use it as a blanket anyway, without a duvet in it.

  27. Ted from Ft. Laud Sep 11th 2017 at 10:40 pm 27

    I would go Wendy one further - right now even a sheet is way too much.

    But when it’s cooler, the twin vs queen issue is pretty irrelevant at my house - no matter how many or how large the bed toppers (of any flavor), none of them seem to be available to me…

  28. Carolyn Sep 12th 2017 at 11:49 am 28

    Heard about this product for putting on a duvet cover on a podcast. Looks like it might work pretty well.


  29. Meryl A Sep 13th 2017 at 12:55 am 29

    Lord Jubjub - to me a feather bed is a mattress stuffed with feathers from an early period of time as opposed to one stuffed with something else such as straw or horse hair. The feather bed would be much softer and more comfortable.

  30. Meryl A Sep 13th 2017 at 01:05 am 30

    Growing up I had a quilt on my bed. This was not a fancy patchwork thing, but an odd shade of icky green. It had a quilt cover on it. I never really thought about it. (When I went to Girl Scout camp for 2 weeks and we were suppose to bring a sleeping bag - I had a quilt cover and 2 blankets - instead. Same thing when I went bicycle hosteling twice out of state with a local group - quilt cover and blanket instead of a “sleep sack”.

    Robert and I are of different ethnic backgrounds and religions, but the biggest differences we had to deal with when we got married were domestic ones. One of them being - his family used a top sheet and blanket, mine the aforementioned quilt and quilt cover. Our agreement on same was to go with blanket and top sheet and when the blanket needed replacement go to a quilt - covers not being available for same at that time, it would with top sheet. We then stayed with quilts for several new purchases as he agreed it was much more comfortable. Then the bed bugs. It is harder to get them out of a quilt so we are back to blankets.

    Another difference was his family tucked in the top sheet. My family, since we did not use a top sheet, did not tuck in any bedding other than bottom (main) sheet. So, we (I) tucked them in because he wanted them tucked in, along with the blanket when we used same. Now HE cannot sleep with the blanket or top sheet tucked in - it hurts his feet.

    When I first heard the terms duvet and duvet cover, I presumed that they were just the French names for quilt and quilt cover.

  31. Heather Sep 13th 2017 at 09:34 am 31

    The advantage of a duvet with a cover, over a comforter, is (for me) primarily in the washing — but also in the economy for purposes of variety.

    You spill a little something on your comforter, it’s a pain to wash it. Unless you have an industrial sized washing machine (which some people do, but not everyone) you’re likely forced to go to the laundromat or the dry cleaner. And even if you can wash it yourself at home, it takes forever to dry. It’s not an impossible task, but it’s a pain.

    You spill a little something on your duvet cover, you pop off the cover and toss it in the wash. No big deal. It’s as easy as washing any sheet.

    And if you want two pretty, good quality comforters, to change up your decor once in awhile, you might spend, say, $150 each. Or you could spend $150 on a good duvet, and then $50 each on 2 duvet covers. The more different styles you want, the greater the economy of the duvet system. Especially if you’re going for the greater expense of real down. One pricey down duvet + a bunch of inexpensive covers is more economical than a bunch of down comforters.

    Terminology: duvets are white — or at least undecorated. And can be used as is, or covered. Comforters are like duvets but with colourful (non-removable) covers. They’re poofy. Quilts are flatter, and made with some sort of patchwork pattern on the top layer, with a solid fabric bottom layer, and stitched through a middle layer of batting. Finally there are bedspreads, which are basically heavy blankets — often decorated with lace or flowers etc. They’re flat, not poofy. And where comforters/duvets normally cover the top of the bed and spill down the sides only partway, a bedspread generally falls all the way to the floor.

  32. ignaz Matthey Sep 14th 2017 at 07:23 am 32

    It refers to French gourmets who cover their head under a napkin to smell better the aroma of a dish.

  33. Meryl A Sep 20th 2017 at 02:50 am 33

    Quilts do not have to be pieced. Doing so originally was to use scraps of fabric to make the quilt and not waste small pieces of fabric. They also vary in thickness depending on what is used for batting in them. The one I had growing up was a horrible green.

    Bedspreads are not heavy blankets - they are light decorative bed covers that are put on the bed during the day while one is not in it, to make it look nice. They are longer than the other items as they will cover the pillows also when they are used.

    We were at a quilt show (stuff to make them and exhibitions of finished ones,as well as supplies for other fiber/textile crafts) this past Saturday. The variety of quilts is so huge these days.

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