Beer Ticket

Cidu Bill on Sep 6th 2017

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Filed in Bill Bickel, CIDU, Tina's Groove, comic strips, comics, humor | 25 responses so far

25 Responses to “Beer Ticket”

  1. James Schend Sep 6th 2017 at 12:12 am 1

    … what’s a “beer ticket”? Or is that the joke?

  2. Arthur Sep 6th 2017 at 12:21 am 2

    A quick search shows that beer tickets are used for prepaying
    for beers. That doesn’t help me find humor in this, though.

  3. Stan Sep 6th 2017 at 12:22 am 3

    Aren’t beer tickets sold at festivals in one particular location to make things easier for the actual bar staff to quickly distribute said beverage rather than having to keep making change for everyone? I think this happened to me once at a music festival in Finland.

    Even if that’s right, I still can’t work out the joke. Is it just that he’s an alien and the place he would have procured this ticket is way out, man, and the barman isn’t reacting at all to the fact that there’s an alien in his bar, just that the ticket’s invalid. Har, har!

    There must be more to it.

  4. Mona Sep 6th 2017 at 12:46 am 4

    I think there are events where you buy tickets for beer or wine and can use them at all locations that are participating. For example, if there is an “art walk” or “pub crawl” in town. This guy is from waaaay out of town. Not only is his ticket not good here, but he probably doesn’t have any cash or credit cards he can use here. And the barman doesn’t care if the customer must have alcohol in order to survive. And doesn’t notice that the guy looks a bit odd.
    Pretty much what Stan said.

  5. James Pollock Sep 6th 2017 at 03:32 am 5

    When I was in law school, there were several events where, if you attended, you got a guaranteed seat (and dinner) plus one or two “drink tickets” which were good at the bar. These events were NOT held in actual bars, but in event spaces where they brought in everything from somewhere else. So that had 100 guests coming, they brought enough dinners for 100 people, and since they gave out 200 drink tickets, they had enough beer on hand to pour 200 glasses.
    Except… they didn’t just have one kind of beer. The Pacific Northwest is full of beer snobs and microbreweries, even so some people don’t even like to drink rotted grain, so they also have rotted grapes, and sometimes rotted fruit of other types, as well.
    Since I quit drinking about the time it became legal for me to start drinking, and that was more than half my life agoI haven’t paid much attention to that sort of thing for a fairly long time.

    The joke is that the barman has seen everything, and isn’t impressed that space aliens are real. The problem is that the space alien didn’t bring a form of payment that his establishment honors, so the little guy isn’t getting served, period.

  6. Olivier Sep 6th 2017 at 04:55 am 6

    I agree with the definition of “beer tickets” above. Actually “ticket boisson”(= drink ticket) here.
    Maybe something to do with prescriptions that cannot be filled in another state ? Being an alien, our bars on Earth are his equivalent of pharmacies at home.

  7. fleabane Sep 6th 2017 at 12:32 pm 7

    When I was a tyke I used to be annoyed when all the old folks used to say “The way they are teaching kids, we’ll have a nation of people (might) intellectually understand things but won’t *feel* things”. I thought it was old fogey generation bashing.

    Now I wonder if they *were* right. We have all analyzed humor and concluded “Humor arises from an incongruous juxtaposition”. No I’m wondering if we have an entire generation of cartoonists who understand but don’t feel humor.

    As incongruous juxtaposition, this cartoon is excellent. You have a sci-fi meme of aliens from a environment in which they need alcohol to live, and callous earth bartender refusing to accept a modern but obiquitous beer ticket. Very incongruous. … but not funny.

    (I think because neither theme “Alien needing alcohol to live” “bartender refusing beer ticket” are strong enough to resonate and the apparent logical connector “beer and alien atmospheres have alcohol in them” is too weak.)

  8. Scott Sep 6th 2017 at 12:42 pm 8

    If it were a whiskey ticket, I’d think the bar was in the city of Mahagonny.

  9. Winter Wallaby Sep 6th 2017 at 02:40 pm 9

    fleabane #7: I dunno, one mediocre comic doesn’t seem enough to jump on the old fogey generation bashing bandwagon. There are always lots of comics that don’t work.

    My kids have some old Garfield books, and are very into having me read and explain them to them. It’s amazing how many of my explanations are “Jon is saying that Garfield is fat and lazy. But it’s not really that funny” or “Garfield is saying that Jon is a dork. But it’s not really that funny.” OTOH, there’s much less lasagna-related humor than I had anticipated.

  10. fleabane Sep 6th 2017 at 03:14 pm 10

    WW #9. It’s not just this one. There are a *lot* of comics around where they are quirky, and incongruous, and one can get *why* they are quirky and congruous … but they just aren’t funny.

    On the other hand, some characteristics, irony and logical complexity, have gotten lightyears better in recent years. So it is completely *fair* generation bashing.

    But geez, there are a *lot* of modern comics where the seem to think tortured observations are enough (Womu, Tundra, Strange Brew…. *all* of those always result in a giant “I get it but… so what”).

  11. fleabane Sep 6th 2017 at 03:21 pm 11

    isN’T completely *fair* generation bashing.

  12. James Pollock Sep 6th 2017 at 04:26 pm 12

    “There are a *lot* of comics around where they are quirky, and incongruous, and one can get *why* they are quirky and congruous … but they just aren’t funny. ”

    You left out “to me” at the end of this sentence. There’s always a challenge in pop culture/entertainment between “broad” comedy, and the kind that some (even most) people don’t get. Comedy is an intensely personal thing; sometimes things ARE funny to person A and are NOT funny to person B. There’s a lot of factors involved, which, for once, I won’t try to develop further.

    For example, take the Three Stooges. Some people find them hilariously funny. Some people watch and say, basically “…and? The funny part is…?” My daughter didn’t find Monty Python amusing in the least. (don’t worry, she has other, fine, positive qualities that more than make up for this deep character flaw.)

    If a particular pop-culture/entertainment product consistently fails to amuse you, perhaps it is simply because you are not in their targeted audience. It is not “for” you. I, for example, find that Rush Limbaugh has about 99 “thuds” per “ha”, but other people find him amusing enough to have kept him living comfortably for several decades. There are any number of popular, sometimes quite popular, entertainers for whom I amazed that there is an audience. To each his own.

    It turns out that a lot of people like music that I don’t, and food items that I don’t, and have politics that I don’t, and so on, and so on, and so on.

  13. Winter Wallaby Sep 6th 2017 at 05:11 pm 13

    fleabane #10: Like I said before, “there are always lots of comics that don’t work.” You point to lots of comics that you don’t think are very good, but there were also lots of comics 20 years ago that I didn’t find very good.

    The average quality of newspaper comics seems about the same to me. One thing that’s different is there’s not a lot more diversity of easily accessible smaller “niche” comics, some of which really appeal to me, and some of which I find incomprehensibly terrible.

  14. James Pollock Sep 6th 2017 at 05:19 pm 14

    “The average quality of newspaper comics seems about the same to me.”

    There used to be too many comics that were aimed at people older than me.

    Now there are too many comics that are aimed at people younger than me.

  15. James Pollock Sep 6th 2017 at 06:35 pm 15

    Stepping back and taking a new look at this comic, it now makes me think “well, SOMEBODY’S going to get abducted and probed tonight…”

  16. fleabane Sep 7th 2017 at 03:33 am 16

    @12 and sort of 13.

    I disagree. Everybody *understands* the three stooges and everybody knows why it is supposed to funny. It’s just that some people don’t like it or and don’t find it worthwhile or think it just plain isn’t *good*.

    I’m not talking about *quality*. There have always been bad strips and bad strips don’t bother me. I’m talking about strips that just seem to not be able to make logical coherence in execution that drive me up the wall.

    This strip is a perfect example. The humor pins on “some aliens live on alcohol atmosphered planets” and “beer has alcohol in it”. That just isn’t a coherent bridge. A crappy garfield cartoon or the three stooges on the other hand have very strong bridge. John is a dork and here’s an extreme example; or physical humor that is causing great pain brought on by their stupidity. Strong bridge. (Even though very stupid and unfunny quality.)

  17. Kilby Sep 7th 2017 at 04:19 am 17

    @ fleabane (16) - Just in case anyone needs an example of a crappy “Three Stooges” cartoon.

  18. fleabane Sep 7th 2017 at 11:17 am 18

    @17 Okay. I laughed at that one.

  19. James Pollock Sep 7th 2017 at 11:37 am 19

    “Everybody ‘understands’ the three stooges and everybody knows why it is supposed to funny.”
    Asserted without evidence. A common question of the Stooges’ oevre is “why is this supposed to be funny?”

    ” The humor pins on ’some aliens live on alcohol atmosphered planets’”‘

    No, it doesn’t. You’ve brought this “alcohol atmosphered planet” idea to the joke yourself.

    Bartenders, particularly those who work in skid row bars, are used to encountering people who desperately “need” another drink, but can’t pay for it. After enough time, they just don’t want to hear it any more. From anyone.

  20. Mark in Boston Sep 7th 2017 at 11:35 pm 20

    There is a lot of clever nonsense in Three Stooges movies, apart from the slapstick.

    They are stuck in jail.
    Moe: “If we had a saw, we could saw our way out.”
    Curly produces a saw and starts sawing the bars.
    Moe: “Where’d you get that?”
    Curly: “I sent in box tops!”

    And when the guests at the rich couple’s house are watching television showing Niagara Falls, and suddenly water pours out of the TV, that’s pure Theatre of the Absurd worthy of Ionesco or Samuel Beckett.

  21. Brian in STL Sep 8th 2017 at 12:23 am 21

    “There is a lot of clever nonsense in Three Stooges movies, apart from the slapstick.”

    For duty and humanity!

  22. larK Sep 8th 2017 at 12:34 am 22

    Larry: Look! I found $10!
    Moe: Well, you owe me $20!
    Larry: OK, well here’s 10, and I’ll owe you 10.
    Curly (to Moe): Not so fast, you owe ME $20!
    Moe: Well, here’s $10, and I’ll owe you 10.
    Larry (to Curly): Wait a minute, you owe ME $20!
    Curly: Well, here’s 10 and I’ll owe you 10.
    Larry (to Moe): Here’s the $10 I owe you.
    Moe (to Curly): Here’s the $10 I owe you.
    Curly (to Larry): Here’s the $10 I owe you.

  23. Bob Sep 8th 2017 at 07:14 am 23

    NIAGARA FALLS! Slowly, I turn…

  24. Mark in Boston Sep 8th 2017 at 09:05 pm 24

    They are musicians in a medieval king’s court.

    Larry: Quick! We have to create a distraction.
    Moe: Let’s turn on the radio.
    Curly: But we’re in ancient times!
    Moe: Well, it’s an ancient radio.

    (Sure enough, on the table behind them is a 1920-style radio with a question-mark horn speaker.)

  25. Meryl A Sep 13th 2017 at 02:37 am 25

    My mom never understood most comics. Then again, if we were playing Trivial Pursuit - she would not be playing, just in the room - she would get so excited if she knew an answer she would yell it out - making problems with the game.

    Now Robert does not particularly like comics - of the types we read and discuss here - Batman and such he likes - but when I show him one I know he will appreciate he likes it and understands it.

    Then again - he likes the 3 stooges and I haven’t particularly liked them since around the age of 25 - I think it might be a girl thing.

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