Well… none, actually…

Cidu Bill on May 11th 2017

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Half a century at Camp Swampy, and he apparently still hasn’t successfully completed Basic Training.

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25 Responses to “Well… none, actually…”

  1. Olivier May 11th 2017 at 09:15 am 1

  2. Kilby May 11th 2017 at 10:12 am 2

    Wikipedia appears to think that Beetle Bailey doesn’t count as a “zombie” or “legacy” strip, because Mort Walker is still “producing” it (at age 93).

  3. Winter Wallaby May 11th 2017 at 11:17 am 3

    He may not ever have to fight in any wars, but he does get brutally beaten up by his sergeant on a regular basis. (Or has that, like the violence in Andy Capp, been removed in modern strips?)

  4. James Pollock May 11th 2017 at 01:57 pm 4

    General Halftrack DID get caught up in the war on sexual harassment.

  5. BeckoningChasm May 11th 2017 at 04:08 pm 5

    Fun fact: Beetle Bailey was originally a college strip. Beetle ducked into a recruiting center to escape an angry professor and a love-struck girl.

  6. Hank G. May 11th 2017 at 07:11 pm 6

    What’s he complaining about? His current girlfriend is Miss Buxley, and judging from this strip, she is not inexperienced: https://goo.gl/images/D0dCk4

  7. Winter Wallaby May 11th 2017 at 07:50 pm 7

    Hank #6: BB isn’t complaining that he (BB) can’t get a girl. He’s belittling Charlie Brown’s complaint that CB can’t get a girl.

  8. ja May 11th 2017 at 07:50 pm 8

    @hank G
    Note the quotes. Charlie Brown was the one complaining about the lack of girlfriend. Beetle was mocking him.

  9. Mark in Boston May 11th 2017 at 11:51 pm 9

    Doesn’t Miss Buxley keep him in the friendzone?

  10. Minor Annoyance May 12th 2017 at 03:02 am 10

    Actually, in the later years of the strip the Little Red Headed-Girl receded a bit, and Charlie Brown found himself pursued by Peppermint Patty and Marcie. When the two were in competition — usually the two would just phone him and demand to know who he liked best, then get mad at him for indecision — Charlie Brown actually seemed more interested in Marcie.

    In time it settled into just Peppermint Patty, so after years of unrequited love he was in the odd position of having a would-be girlfriend he didn’t want. Schroder could usually just ignore Lucy when she lounged against his piano. Peppermint Patty was not so easy to screen out.

    The most poignant moments came when Charlie Brown got sent home from summer camp because girls were fighting over him at the neighboring camp — something that, to be honest, he found really exciting. It turned out that Peppermint Patty decided to confront the Little Red-Headed Girl, then just burst into tears when she saw LRHG was so pretty she didn’t have a chance.

    After that it quieted down to occasional Sunday strips where CB and PP were leaning against opposite sides of a tree. PP would ask a question, or fish for a compliment. CB’s answers were never satisfying.

  11. Bob in Nashville May 12th 2017 at 07:06 am 11

    Yeah, I never felt too bad for Charlie Brown on the love life front. If he had ever quit holding out for the Little Red-Haired Girl, he could have had Peppermint Patty any time he wanted.

  12. Boise Ed May 12th 2017 at 02:42 pm 12

    MA [10]: The Little Red Headed-Girl moved away. CB watched her leave, desperately wanting to run over and say something, but he remained rooted to the spot until the van was gone. I found it heart-rending.

  13. Hank G. May 12th 2017 at 03:05 pm 13

    In time it settled into just Peppermint Patty, so after years of unrequited love he was in the odd position of having a would-be girlfriend he didn’t want.

    Is that so odd? Seems like a normal condition of life for many people.

  14. Hank G. May 12th 2017 at 03:07 pm 14

    re: #7 & #8

    You are both right; I misread the comic. OTOH, I did get a chance to post that comic, which surprised me in that it got past the censors.

  15. James Pollock May 12th 2017 at 04:09 pm 15

    “I never felt too bad for Charlie Brown on the love life front. If he had ever quit holding out for the Little Red-Haired Girl, he could have had Peppermint Patty any time he wanted.”

    But… she had a big nose!
    Anyways, the point was he might’ve had a chance with the Little Red-Haired Girl, if he’d ever had the nerve to go talk to her.
    The LRHG was based on a real person.

  16. Minor Annoyance May 12th 2017 at 05:19 pm 16

    Anybody see the Peanuts movie? Well intentioned and visually interesting, but …

    SPOILER

    He spends the movie trying to impress the LRHG, and in the end she tells him she IS impressed and does like him! She then ticks off all the good intentions and decency she could see behind his parade of failures. As a movie for small kids who don’t really know the strip, it sorta works. But it’s not the kind of thing you’d ever see in the strip.

  17. Cidu Bill May 12th 2017 at 06:07 pm 17

    Minor Annoyance (10), was Charlie Brown really the object of Marcie’s affection?

  18. Mark in Boston May 12th 2017 at 08:19 pm 18

    I thought Peppermint Patty and Marcie were a couple. They go everywhere together. Marcie always calls Patty “sir”.

  19. ja May 12th 2017 at 08:20 pm 19

  20. James Pollock May 12th 2017 at 08:21 pm 20

    “was Charlie Brown really the object of Marcie’s affection?”

    Yes, she was. One of the feature-length movies went into considerable depth.
    Just because Peppermint Patty was good at sports doesn’t mean…

  21. Cidu Bill May 12th 2017 at 08:50 pm 21

    Oh, Peppermint Patty was definitely crushing on Charlie Brown. I don’t think it could have been more obvious that Marcie was crushing on Peppermint Patty, though.

  22. Minor Annoyance May 13th 2017 at 04:03 am 22

    Cidu Bill: Yes, for a while.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rADwuJk-hD0

    As noted, Schulz let those storylines fade away, but Peppermint Patty would still hang with Charlie Brown once in a while and periodically drag the whole gang out for muddy football. That’s a thing in comic strips, gag as well as continuity: Seemingly permanent developments will blossom, then go away as the creators run out of ideas or just get tired of the idea.

    Very late in the strip’s run Peppermint Patty invited herself to the Brown household when her father was out of town. She was overly stoked about her vision of lively, sitcom-style family life with home cooking and board games and all that. Instead, life with the Browns was TV dinners and television, and Charlie Brown and Sally were uncharacteristically unkind as hosts (Snoopy’s doghouse was the guest room). It was a bit sad, almost a very dry parody of Peanuts rather than the real thing.

  23. James Pollock May 13th 2017 at 04:12 am 23

    “I don’t think it could have been more obvious that Marcie was crushing on Peppermint Patty, though.”

    I just don’t see it. Besides Marcie showing interest in Charlie Brown, she also liked the French boy in the movie where the gang all went to France.

  24. Minor Annoyance May 13th 2017 at 01:48 pm 24

    Also recalling an old piece by Hank Ketchum — a book intro, maybe — that asserted Margaret was the girl Dennis was fated (or doomed) to end up with, because she had made up her mind, as women do. It was funny but quietly bitter.

    In practice Margaret is more of an eternal scold. At some point Ketchum introduced Gina, a tomboy with an Italian accent who was cuter and more of a chum. Dennis would clearly do better to let her catch him, although the eternal kid never got beyond the compliment of “You’re not like a girl” (and wondering why she slugged him).

  25. Kilby May 13th 2017 at 07:15 pm 25

    @ Minor Annoyance (23) - Those perennial pairings are yet another reason why I still cannot forgive Ketchum for using the name of his own son for his less than lovable comic character.

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