Ribbitt

Cidu Bill on Mar 16th 2017

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Filed in Bill Bickel, CIDU, Rubes, comic strips, comics, humor | 25 responses so far

25 Responses to “Ribbitt”

  1. Kevin A Mar 16th 2017 at 12:08 am 1

    I think it’s safe to say that the Sorcerer has changed the fellow into a frog after receiving the news, just prior to this moment.

  2. James Pollock Mar 16th 2017 at 12:16 am 2

    Yes, the setup is built around “out-sorcery”, with a kicker of “now change me back”

  3. Grawlix Mar 16th 2017 at 12:41 am 3

    I can imagine some boardroom discussion somewhere with someone saying they wish they could wave a magic wand to make the company’s situation all better.

  4. mitch4 Mar 16th 2017 at 01:31 am 4

    I thought “out-sorcery” was pretty good!

  5. furrykef Mar 16th 2017 at 03:18 am 5

    The frog doesn’t seem to be doing a good job of providing an incentive for the wizard to change him back.

  6. Proginoskes Mar 16th 2017 at 04:45 am 6

    The wizard should respond: “No, I’m in the mood for frog’s legs for lunch.”

  7. Kilby Mar 16th 2017 at 05:17 am 7

    I agree with furrykef, and that’s why I think this comic just doesn’t work. Given the wizard’s strategic advantage, one would think that it would be easy for him to get his job back.

  8. DemetriosX Mar 16th 2017 at 07:01 am 8

    Out-sorcery isn’t a bad joke, but I’m pretty sure it’s been done before and more than once. Maybe not in comics, but with all the humorous fantasy books and video games out there, it has to be an old joke.

  9. Ron Mar 16th 2017 at 07:54 am 9

    Out-Sorcery the move (2011)
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2025638/

  10. Powers Mar 16th 2017 at 08:33 am 10

    It’s not just “out-sorcery”; there’s also “wave a magic wand”.

  11. Treesong Mar 16th 2017 at 09:35 am 11

    Irrelevant to the joke, but the situation looks a bit odd to me. I’d expect the wizard to have been called to the manager’s office to get the news, but he’s the one who’s at his desk, in a position of power.

  12. James Pollock Mar 16th 2017 at 12:24 pm 12

    The Wizard’s been told to clean out his desk by a message-boy from management (that is, some middle manager that nobody cares about). That’s why he’s at his own desk (11) and why he doesn’t have any kind of advantage (7). (Actually, I think it IS the frog’s desk What’s making you think it isn’t is the fact that you can’t see the frog’s chair, which is behind him and covered by speech balloon (so the artist left it faded into the background because you wouldn’t have been able to tell what it was.)

  13. Scott Mar 16th 2017 at 12:34 pm 13

    It is the frog’s desk - look at how the phone is positioned.
    The frog’s next line is that he can get a foreign wizard to turn him back for less money.

  14. Mike Mar 16th 2017 at 02:09 pm 14

    But the mug is in front of the wizard. I think it should be the frog’s desk, and it was probably intended to be, it just wasn’t drawn very well.

  15. James Pollock Mar 16th 2017 at 02:46 pm 15

    “But the mug is in front of the wizard.”

    Because the wizard had to put down his coffee to cast the “middle-manager-into-frog-body” spell.

  16. Greybeard Mar 16th 2017 at 06:47 pm 16

    I’m quite sure this wasn’t intended by the cartoonist, but I first read the “change me back” to echo the companies who say “We’re outsourcing…but before you leave, please train your replacements”.

  17. Stan Mar 16th 2017 at 09:49 pm 17

    Yea, I understand everyone’s confusion about whose desk it is. The way the papers are laid out with the coffee mug behind them and the handle towards the frog, as I would do it when I’m working, and the position of the phone looks like it is the frog’s desk. However, the wizard is definitely sitting in a chair (unless that’s some horrible growth on his back) suggesting what JP said at the first part of 12 & 15. I was confused by this until I came to the conclusion it was the Wizard’s desk, and I back up JP’s theory overall. However, this comic probably wouldn’t have ended up here if the paraphernalia on the desk had been laid out in a way that would suggest this more clearly.

  18. James Pollock Mar 16th 2017 at 10:06 pm 18

    “I came to the conclusion it was the Wizard’s desk, and I back up JP’s theory overall.”

    I think it’s the frog’s desk.
    The wizard is not centered on the desk, as he would be if he were putting his legs into a kneehole in the desk (which he would have if it were his desk, and not if it’s the frog’s desk.)

    I think the frog has a chair, but it’s not in the picture, because A) there’s not enough room in the space to draw it in, and B) even if the chair were fully visible, the frog wouldn’t be in it because if the frog’s in his chair, he’s not visible over the edge of the desk.

    In fact, the frog’s positioning… which is clearly forced by the artistic requirements of the scene, he has to be visible and not just a disembodied voice bubble coming from behind a desk… comes about because of the dynamic situation. If the frog were just a visitor to the wizard’s office, he wouldn’t be on the desk like he is shown. Had he just walked in, he’d be on the floor, or (since that doesn’t work artistically because you wouldn’t see he’s a frog) he’d have jumped all the way onto the desk. But he’s hanging off the side of the desk (barely) because he was leaning over the desk when he was transformed into a frog, and that only makes sense if it’s his desk.)

    Now. That said, my theory of what happened NEXT is that the wizard cast a singing and dancing spell on the frog, and buried him in the cornerstone of a local building that was just starting construction, and just kept going to work like nothing happened.

  19. Ted from Ft. Laud Mar 16th 2017 at 10:47 pm 19

    I assumed that the wizard came into the frog’s office carrying the coffee cup, sat down in the “guest” chair, and put his cup down on the desk. Of course, the cup handle is pointing in a strange direction for that, but what can you do. The fact that no chair shows on the frog’s side of the desk is odd, and I think helps (in a bad way) make the scene ambiguous - I’d expect a “manager-style” high-backed chair that is (now) massively too big for the frog, but perhaps Rubin couldn’t figure out a way to draw that in a way that actually had the frog appear above the desk.

  20. Boise Ed Mar 17th 2017 at 02:28 pm 20

    I think James [18] is right about the frog’s chair. Were I drawing this, I’d have had the chair visible and the frog (having newly become such) squatting on the desk. (Of course, if I were drawing this, it would all be completely unrecognizable except maybe the rectilinear desk.)

  21. Stan Mar 17th 2017 at 08:40 pm 21

    “Had he just walked in, he’d be on the floor, or …he’d have jumped all the way onto the desk. But he’s hanging off the side of the desk (barely) because he was leaning over the desk when he was transformed into a frog, and that only makes sense if it’s his desk.)”

    Unless to the edge of the desk was as high as he could jump and he’s hanging off the side of it, as you say. That makes sense. Anyway, after looking this over again, yea, I guess you’re all right. It’s got to be the frog’s desk. Still, if he’s got a chair for guests, it would stand to reason that he would have his own chair. It seems to me there’s enough room to put one in there, and as for “if the frog’s in his chair, he’s not visible over the edge of the desk”, who’s to say he couldn’t have been leaning over his desk while sitting down, elbows atop of it? I do that all the time when talking to people. That chair would have helped me at least to get this one a bit quicker.

  22. James Pollock Mar 17th 2017 at 08:59 pm 22

    “That chair would have helped me at least to get this one a bit quicker.”

    I don’t think it would have, because the speech balloon would have covered most of it up, you’d have a had a couple of lines behind the frog which would have been indistinct. Rather than being unclear on whose desk it was, you’d be unclear on what the heck that thing was supposed to be behind the frog.

    I mean, you’re not complaing that there’s literally nothing behind the frog… if it were his office, there’d be stuff behind him, right? shelves, or a wall with windows or things hanging from it, etc?

    This is a “hey, the choice made wasn’t great but it’s probably the best that could have been done.” Final answer, Regis.

  23. Stan Mar 17th 2017 at 09:13 pm 23

    “the speech balloon would have covered most of it up”

    The edge of the panel is covering most of the wizard’s chair up, yet it’s clear he is sitting down. Even though it looks like a giant coffee bean, everyone has the common sense to work out it must be a chair.

    “hey, the choice made wasn’t great but it’s probably the best that could have been done.”

    I, and I believe others, feel that it was not the best choice. A chair would have helped. Final answer.

  24. B.A. Mar 17th 2017 at 09:40 pm 24

    Wouldn’t both chairs, both characters and the voice bubble all have been easily visible if the scene had been drawn from a different angle?

  25. Meryl A Mar 22nd 2017 at 01:56 am 25

    1 Frog is holding onto desk as if he was sitting behind it and either his chair is too low for a frog to reach the desk while seated there - or it has disappeared with the spell - or fall backwards to the floor out of sight.

    2 The mug handle points to the right -as it would for a right handed wizard.

    3 - The telephone is angled at the frog’s side of the desk not the wizard’s.

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