Cidu Bill on Mar 14th 2017


Boise Ed: It’s not part of an ongoing story, but it sure does look like it.

Filed in Bill Bickel, CIDU, Foolish Mortals, comic strips, comics, humor | 29 responses so far

29 Responses to “Coffee”

  1. Olivier Mar 14th 2017 at 10:45 am 1

    It looks like a picture taken from a kiddie book with a line from a romantic novel for comic effect.

  2. Arseetoo Mar 14th 2017 at 11:08 am 2

    Wow…. you got me on this one. Not sure if it’s just the absurdity of a guy asking a bird out on a date. And why specifically a “pillager”?

  3. Pirk Mar 14th 2017 at 11:19 am 3

    he has such self esteem, that instead of raping a woman as pillagers do, he can barely ask a bird out on a date?

  4. Treesong Mar 14th 2017 at 11:49 am 4

    Looks to me like he caught a case of Glen Baxter on Dec 19 ( The art style switched from big-head cartoony to semirealistic, the jokes frum surrealism to non-sequitur captions.

  5. Winter Wallaby Mar 14th 2017 at 12:24 pm 5

    I thought this was pretty funny. It’s just the absurdity that Arseetoo referred to, accentuated by the increased disconnect that Pirk brings up.

  6. Rammy M Mar 14th 2017 at 07:59 pm 6

    is it a bluebird of happiness? does that even help if it is?

  7. Mark in Boston Mar 14th 2017 at 09:56 pm 7

    Are rape and pillage the same thing? If so, isn’t “rape and pillage” redundant?

    I thought “rape” was carrying away the women and “pillage” was carrying away the inanimate objects.

  8. Stan Mar 14th 2017 at 11:36 pm 8

    Come on, guys. Let’s leave raping a pillaging out of this. He’s just trying to pick up a chick.

  9. James Pollock Mar 14th 2017 at 11:46 pm 9

    “I thought “rape” was carrying away the women and “pillage” was carrying away the inanimate objects.”

    Raping is when you have sex with the women and then get back on your boat and go home, leaving her behind. Pillaging is when you take her back with you along with the gold and other valuables.

    So the barbarian invaders can rape without pillaging, or they can pillage without raping, but there’s often considerable overlap between the two.

  10. James Pollock Mar 14th 2017 at 11:49 pm 10

    “Come on, guys. Let’s leave raping a pillaging out of this.”

    According to the caption, he is a pillager. That’s not going to go away if you just pretend he isn’t.

  11. Stan Mar 15th 2017 at 01:39 am 11

    “That’s not going to go away if you just pretend he isn’t.”

    Does what he does for a living define his every action? I can’t imagine plumbers try to fix ‘chicks’ toilets when they’re out on the prowl.

  12. Kilby Mar 15th 2017 at 01:41 am 12

    Absurdity notwithstanding, I quit reading “Dark Side of the Horse” because I was tired of coffee jokes. Garfield burnt that subject out long ago.

  13. Usual John Mar 15th 2017 at 02:25 am 13

    Kilby, I don’t think this is a coffee joke. “A coffee” just means a low-key date that may or may not lead to a more extensive relationship. The participants do not necessarily have to have coffee.

  14. James Pollock Mar 15th 2017 at 03:42 am 14

    “Does what he does for a living define his every action?”

    “Pillager” is a character trait, not a job title. Except maybe in Monty Python.

  15. Stan Mar 15th 2017 at 04:08 am 15

    ‘“Pillager” is a character trait, not a job title. Except maybe in Monty Python.’

    Fine. Does one of his character traits define his every action? I can’t imagine a habitual nose picker will clean out his nostrils when he’s out on the prowl.

  16. padraig Mar 15th 2017 at 09:35 am 16

    I’m afraid the only good (and non-PC) joke about pillaging was the veteran Viking giving the youngster a talking to after the big event:
    “How many times do I have to tell you? First rape, then pillage, THEN burn!”

  17. larK Mar 15th 2017 at 10:09 am 17

    Stan: You didn’t get the recognition you deserved for your comment @ 8. I don’t know about anybody else, but for me this comic is so opaque that (up till now) I’ve felt totally cowed in the comment making department. I saw what you did when you did it, and am now belatedly sending kudos.

    Picking on your setup without acknowledging your punchline then is just perverse.

  18. Irene Mar 15th 2017 at 11:25 am 18

    “rape” means “to spoil or destroy” and can apply to inanimate objects.
    “The Rape of the Lock” by Alexander Pope is a literary example.

    Pillaging is theft.

    To “rape and pillage” is to steal and then destroy what you leave behind.

  19. larK Mar 15th 2017 at 11:47 am 19

    So then shouldn’t it be “pillage and rape”?

    The Vandal’s Guide Book: Always remember, first pillage, THEN rape.

  20. Treesong Mar 15th 2017 at 12:35 pm 20

    @me 4: OK, I was wrong. He did semirealistic before 12/19, like 9/26 and 10/31, and cartoony afterward, like 1/23. He did nonmeaningless semirealistic, like 12/26. But at least five cartoons (10/24, 12/29, 1/09, 2/06, and 3/13) are truly Baxterian; the captions are deliberate nonsense, and there’s no point trying to understand them or connect them to the pictures. I wonder if it’s significant that the only cartoons that came out four weeks after the previous one (otherwise it was one or two) are Baxterian: 10/24 and 3/13. If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

  21. Mark in Boston Mar 15th 2017 at 09:20 pm 21

    So all those paintings — The Rape of Europa, the Rape of the Sabine Women, etc. — should actually have “pillage” instead of “rape” in their title?

    When I first saw those pictures, they were not what I expected from the titles.

  22. Stan Mar 15th 2017 at 11:13 pm 22

    Thanks larK @ 17. It was just meant as a silly comment as I don’t get this one either, so I’m not sure why it stirred up further commentary. Well, I am, actually.

  23. Olivier Mar 16th 2017 at 03:26 am 23

    MiB@21 : the title of those paintings in French are “l’enlèvement d’Europe” and “L’enlèvement des Sabines”, and : “enlèvement”=abduction.

  24. guero Mar 16th 2017 at 12:56 pm 24

    Treesong - I followed your lead @4 and pretty much came up with the same assessment as you did @20. What’s interesting is that if you go back to his early works in 2012, they are much more in line with your typical single panel cartoon. Some of the jokes were actually pretty good. I didn’t have the time or patience to follow through and see where he began to, how would one put it, release his creative muses?

  25. Olivier Mar 17th 2017 at 04:38 am 25

    MiB@21 : I’ve been thinking about this rape/abduction thing. In French, “rapt” is synonymous for “enlèvement”(=abduction); definition here : ; for example, the Beagle Boys are named “Les Rapetou”(+/-=steal it all)
    So maybe this meaning of rape comes from the French word (which comes from Latin).

  26. Olivier Mar 17th 2017 at 04:48 am 26

  27. Cidu Bill Mar 17th 2017 at 04:56 am 27

    And just for the heck of it, there’s the song from The Fantasticks which, in current productions, has had its lyrics clumsily changed to remove the word “rape”:

    The original:

    The “acceptable” version, which works about as well as Cee Lo Green’s “Forget You”:

    Seriously, if you can’t use the actual song anymore, and you can’t find somebody capable of re-writing the lyrics properly, just drop the song completely. I saw this a couple of years ago, and the song was just painful to listen to.

  28. Olivier Mar 17th 2017 at 05:22 am 28

    And here’s the justification (see “origin”):
    (@CIDU Bill : the links you provided are not working for me).

  29. Meryl A Mar 22nd 2017 at 02:29 am 29

    I was about to post the song from the Fantasticks. (The play was MUCH better than the movie - entire scenes -don’t ask which I don’t remember now - were missing.)

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