Holy Geezer Reference, Batman!

Cidu Bill on May 22nd 2016


Seriously, is this a reference a 7-year-old in 2016 is likely to know, let alone use?

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32 Responses to “Holy Geezer Reference, Batman!”

  1. DemetriosX May 22nd 2016 at 02:54 pm 1

    There are Batman ‘66 comic books, so it’s possible that those are among Clayton’s purchases. Or Adam is a fan and has watched them with the kids on cable/streaming/DVD.

  2. PeterW May 22nd 2016 at 04:02 pm 2

    It’s a phrase structure that’s going to dog the Batman franchise’s steps forever, I think. Batman Forever did a reference, I think some of the cartoon series have done references.

  3. Kamino Neko May 22nd 2016 at 05:06 pm 3

    Yeah, given that Clayton seems to be a particularly Batman-obsessed kid (for purposes of this specific strip, anyway), there’s no way anybody in that house doesn’t know it. Not only do they probably have DVDs of the 60s series, as mentioned, it’s been referenced to death in other media - including the comics.

  4. Dave Van Domelen May 22nd 2016 at 05:06 pm 4

    Ugh, the current Batman Beyond comic is…not good. No real connection to the cartoon, either, beyond the design of the suit.

  5. Kamino Neko May 22nd 2016 at 05:13 pm 5

    Huh. Batman Beyond is still running? Thought that had been cancelled.

    Not relieved by that like I am by Doctor Fate continuing, and Hellblazer, Prez, and Gotham Academy restarting in a couple months (since…yeah, I wasn’t really enjoying it, either), but wow…so many books I thought were cancelled aren’t. What a bout of depression can do to you, mmm?

  6. Mona May 22nd 2016 at 06:13 pm 6

    “Seriously, is this a reference a 7-year-old in 2016 is likely to know, let alone use?”
    Perhaps Bill is referring to the phrase “my chore money”.

  7. Kevin A May 22nd 2016 at 08:21 pm 7

    I’ve seen The Monkees twice in concert, the first was between seasons. The 2nd time was in the late 80s, almost 20 years after the show ended. The teenage girls next to me were singing all the songs and I asked them how they knew the songs and why they were there. They said they watched the show on MTV (of VH-1, I forget).
    Since then, with the curiosity to ask, I’ve had many encounters with kids who watch the old shows; maybe it’s because The Disney Channel isn’t on the basic tier of cable stations.

    That said, I agree that it’s most likely that the Batman DVD set. I see that it has ranked quite high in Amazon sales (for a 50(!) year old show).

  8. Boise Ed May 23rd 2016 at 02:45 am 8

    Maybe they agree with me, that the many remakes in recent years don’t hold a candle to the old Batman comics, or even the 1960s TV show.

  9. James Pollock May 23rd 2016 at 03:10 am 9

    The 1960’s TV show was an abomination. Adam West was a nice guy, and I don’t mean to crap on him, but that show was a TERRIBLE representation of Batman. Not “nipples on the batsuit” stupid, but not good.

    The 1990’s animated TV show was (by far) the high point in Batman’s media presentations. The Nolan movies, except for the last 5 minutes or so of “Dark Knight Rises”, would be next. Spoiler alert. The fact that Nolan thinks Bruce Wayne COULD choose to stop being Batman shows that he didn’t understand the character after all. Batman will stop being Batman when he’s physically unable to do so, or when he’s killed in action.

    I think Burton got the gloom of Gotham right, but took too many liberties with the source material (replacing Joe Chill with Napier being an obvious one that was central to the first movie.)

    The 1966 Batman series not only didn’t do anything to counter the “comics are not to be taken seriously” mentality, they actively reinforced it. The animated “Brave and the Bold” did the same thing… most of the characters are caricatures… but by the time it came out, people who who wanted to take their comics seriously had other meaningful media options to select from.

  10. Kilby May 23rd 2016 at 03:29 am 10

    @ JP (9) - Stop being such a curmudgeon. The 60’s series was supposed to be silly, and it was exactly that. Not something that a true afficianado of the comic would (or could) appreciate, but perfectly suited for older kids and/or teenagers. I know, I watched Batman two or three times a week, and even enjoyed it, despite plot holes that were large enough to drive a truck through. They were so big that even back then, I could recognize the idiocy myself(*). Later on (seeing reruns), I thought to myself, “why in the world did I waste so much time on that $#!+???”

    P.S. (*) Even as kids we were able to figure out that the clips of the Batmobile leaving the cave and arriving at the Mayor’s office were always the same stock shots.

  11. Boise Ed May 23rd 2016 at 03:37 am 11

    James[9]: I haven’t seen the animated series, so that’s excluded from my comment [8]. (Or if I ever did, I have completely forgotten it.) And I agree totally with the Kilby’s [10] first sentences (not the italicized one).

  12. Kilby May 23rd 2016 at 04:55 am 12

    @ Boise Ed (11) - Thinking back, I don’t regret spending time watching Batman nearly as much as I regret watching Gilligan’s Island or Scooby Doo. ;-) The thing I could never understand about Batman was why the crooks always built some Rube Goldberg contraption to finish him off. Why not just shoot him? That would be too easy, of course.

    P.S. Then there are the scenes in the old Superman series, where the crooks would empty a whole revolver into Superman’s chest (with him grinning like an idiot the whole time), but when the crook throws the gun at Superman, he ducks. Bullets are painless, but guns leave a bruise.

  13. DemetriosX May 23rd 2016 at 06:20 am 13

    JP @9: Actually, the show was a pretty fair representation of what the comics were like in the Silver Age. That was the era of Ace the Bat-Hound, Batmite, and villains with ridiculous, Rube Goldberg plots. It was the result of the Comics Code Authority and the panic caused by The Seduction of the Innocent. As the show aired, the comics were just starting to come out from under all of that and turn toward slightly more mature stories, but it would be a few years before Batman would become a creature of the night again. Heck, some of the scripts, especially in the first season, were taken straight out of the comics.

    I’ve been participating in a rewatch over at Tor.com, and believe it or not the show is actually better than its reputation. The producers knew exactly what they were doing and the shoe even mocked itself from time to time.

  14. Kilby May 23rd 2016 at 06:58 am 14

    Mike Luckovich drew Batman & Robin (as in the old TV series) in his editorial cartoon for yesterday (22 May), but I don’t think a pun on “bathroom” qualifies for synchronicity with this “Adam” strip, unless you define both as being geezer quotes.

  15. Judge Mental May 23rd 2016 at 08:31 am 15

    IFC has the Batman series in heavy rotation. I also think either MeTV or Decades network had a marathon pretty recently.

    Now whether these kids would seek out or find this show among the myriad of cable channels, who knows. But if the kids are this much into comics (and the boy so heavily into Batman) and there is a parent who shares in that interest, I think the odds increase exponentially.

  16. padraig May 23rd 2016 at 08:54 am 16

    And may I add, “BAM! SPLAT! POW!”

    And now I’m OFF TO THE BATCAVE!

  17. Carolyn May 23rd 2016 at 09:38 am 17

    Mona @6 - HA!

  18. James Pollock May 23rd 2016 at 12:24 pm 18

    “The 60’s series was supposed to be silly, and it was exactly that.”
    yes, that’s what I said.

    “Even as kids we were able to figure out that the clips of the Batmobile leaving the cave and arriving at the Mayor’s office were always the same stock shots.”
    My variation on that is the original Battlestar Galactica. Every space combat followed the exact same sequence. They spent their effects budget in the pilot movie, and then had to re-use effects shots in the episodes that followed.
    What I didn’t catch, as a kid, was that every plot in Battlestar Galactica was recycled from a movie. The Guns of Navarone. Ice Planet Zebra. Even the Towering Inferno.

  19. Winter Wallaby May 23rd 2016 at 12:30 pm 19

    Kilby #12: From Austin Powers:

    Dr. Evil: All right guard, begin the unnecessarily slow-moving dipping mechanism.
    [guard starts dipping mechanism]
    Dr. Evil: Close the tank!
    Scott Evil: Wait, aren’t you even going to watch them? They could get away!
    Dr. Evil: No no no, I’m going to leave them alone and not actually witness them dying, I’m just gonna assume it all went to plan. What?
    Scott Evil: I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I’ll get it, I’ll come back down here, BOOM, I’ll blow their brains out!
    Dr. Evil: Scott, you just don’t get it, do ya? You don’t.

  20. James Pollock May 23rd 2016 at 12:32 pm 20

    “I haven’t seen the animated series”
    Correct this deficiency at once. There are 65 episodes in the first season, plus the feature length “Mask of the Phantasm” There are another 20 or so episodes that were made after they did the animated Superman… not as good, but still better than most other cartoon superhero fare. There are a couple of feature length movies from this period, as well… not as good.

    The single most popular Batman villain at present… Harleen Quinzel… originated in the animated series.

    If you won’t take my word for it about the whole thing, just get ahold of “Heart of Ice”. If you MUST have an Adam West fix, he does voice work in two of the episodes, the first of which is “Return of the Grey Ghost”.

  21. James Pollock May 23rd 2016 at 12:56 pm 21

    “The thing I could never understand about Batman was why the crooks always built some Rube Goldberg contraption to finish him off.”

    Because they learned how to be villains by watching Bond movies.

    “Actually, the show was a pretty fair representation of what the comics were like in the Silver Age.”
    I’m well aware of what the comics were like in the Silver Age. In 1966, however, they had half-a-decade of the Marvel revolution to learn from, and chose not to. Because of that choice, (and the half-hearted attempts in the 70s… the Spider-Man live-action show, the Lynda Carter Wonder Woman, and the Bill Bixby Hulk) it would be another couple of decades before an attempt was made in which the source material was taken seriously. Hollywood follows the leaders. The leaders in live-action comics adaptation was “lets make it silly, the sillier the better”.

    “As the show aired, the comics were just starting to come out from under all of that and turn toward slightly more mature stories”

    The “Marvel Revolution”… the turn towards slightly more mature stories… was 5 years old when the show went into production. DC took longer to take notice… inertia caused by the huge weight of their existing product line…but the TV producers were not as tightly bound to the continuity and existing style. (Proof? Aunt Harriet.)

  22. DemetriosX May 23rd 2016 at 02:34 pm 22

    Marvel may have been bringing about changes, but this was a DC property and DC still had some oversight and they weren’t ready to go that route. As for Aunt Harriet, the only thing about her that didn’t fit the comics continuity was her overlap with Alfred. She was brought on board because the CCA was worried about a homosexual subtext in Batman. Giving Bruce and Dick girlfriends might have been more effective than bringing in a clueless matron as chaperone, but that’s the way they went.

    I’m told that in the Batman ‘66 comic that DC is putting out based on the show, there’s a TV show about Batman in which he is dark, gritty, and violent (basically a Dark Knight type) and it’s wrecking his public image.

  23. Mark in Boston May 23rd 2016 at 09:45 pm 23

    In Batman Beyond, is that beyond as in “To infinity and beyond” or beyond as in “Bed Bath & Beyond”?

  24. Kilby May 24th 2016 at 06:19 am 24

    @ MiB (23) - You nailed it: “Bathman Beyond”.

  25. DanV May 24th 2016 at 11:13 am 25

    I am totally a Silver Age guy when it comes to comics. And not only because they are the comics of my youth - I’m just not all that interested in gritty, dark, violent stories as entertainment. There’s enough of that for me in the real world. I mostly want my entertainment choices to help me escape for a little while, make me laugh or at least smile. Didn’t care for Marvel comics when I was a kid, either - angst-ridden, tormented heroes like Spider-Man and the Hulk just didn’t appeal to me. Give me Plastic Man and Mr. Mxyzptlk any day. Hence, I loved the campy Batman series. We knew it was silly, but didn’t really care. It made us laugh. The only Batman movie I really liked was Batman Forever, because it didn’t take itself too seriously. (And you kids - get off my lawn! Harumph!)

  26. Chemgal May 24th 2016 at 01:05 pm 26

    I’m in my 40’s, and don’t know what reference you’re referring to.

  27. s.z. May 24th 2016 at 01:21 pm 27

    Chemgal, the “Holy _____, Batman!” reference.

  28. James Pollock May 24th 2016 at 02:48 pm 28

    Robin: “Holy Twisted Metal, Batman!”
    Batman: “What?!”
    Robin: “The metal, it’s twisted and fully of holes.”

  29. Mark in Boston May 24th 2016 at 07:38 pm 29

    OK, from now on I’m calling that store Bed Batman Beyond.

  30. Meryl A May 25th 2016 at 03:01 am 30

    In the same way Robert and I know about and enjoy big band music, the Marx Brothers, Burns and Allen, etc. from the 1930s and 40’s even though we were not born until the 1950’s, as do my sisters (not his) my niece and nephew (not his nieces as they have his sister for their mom) know about and appreciate all sorts of things from the 1950’s, 60’s and 70’s.

    I was surprised that others in the same generation as Robert and me do not know about the same things as we do. We learned them from our parents as they enjoyed them, and I would figure that others our age with parents from the same generation would also have heard this earlier music and humor in their homes from their parents, but this is not true.

    Then again my niece and nephew when they were young called the record player “the rainbow maker” - they would put a paper plate on the turntable (making a hole in the center obviously), turn on the electricity and the turntable would spin. They would take a color marker and hold it on the plate and it would make a circle. Change pens, ditto. Then remove the plate and cut it in half - 2 rainbows. My sister and her husband taught them this. The kids listened to CDs, so this seemed to be the purpose of the record player. They know differently now. They also know how to use “real phone” including a dial one.

  31. Olivier May 25th 2016 at 04:17 am 31

    MiB @29 : there is a Simpsons episode with a “Bloodbath and beyond” gun shop.

  32. Bob in Nashville May 26th 2016 at 06:59 am 32

    Even on broadcast, there are old-show channels which have rerun Adam West within the past few years.

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