Cidu Bill on Jul 8th 2013







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17 Responses to “Oy.”

  1. James Pollock Jul 8th 2013 at 12:35 pm 1

    I’m sure that bra was purchased from army surplus.

  2. mitch4 Jul 8th 2013 at 07:08 pm 2

    Hey now, which blade is really greener? The one on the other side puts in a good appearance — his refuse basket looks neat & clean. But t’s full of plastic containers and packaging for manufactured food goods — if he’s so green, why is he buying that stuff? And the one on our side of the fence looks messy, untidy, and his larger bin is full of loose bunches of organic matter — but that’s ready for composting, or normal decay at the dump, without the issue of undissolvable containers or bags.

  3. Olpera Jul 9th 2013 at 05:29 am 3

    The grass on the other side is evidently recycling, i.e. he is being “green” in that sense, - hence the symbol on the side of his recycling container. The grass on our side is evidently not - I can clearly identify one glass- and one plastic bottle plus a tin-can and a some cardboard box in his trash bin. Good only knows (or can visualize) what’s hidden underneath.

  4. mitch4 Jul 9th 2013 at 08:40 am 4

    Olpera #3 — Yep, I understand that’s the impression the blade on the other side is trying to leave us with. My counter-suggestion was that he is merely a green poser, and the messy guy on our side may after all be the better citizen.

    Happily, the colorist didn’t make them different shades and throw our discussion into another variant.

  5. Jester Jul 9th 2013 at 09:45 am 5

    With minor changes, couldn’t the punch line of the Mother Goose and Grimm have been “you can’t teach an old dog gnu tricks?” I won’t say that would be funnier (it is a pun, after all) but it would seem to be the more correct and straight forward form.

  6. heather Jul 9th 2013 at 10:10 am 6

    mitch4 - as a self-proclaimed greenie, I still have to buy my fair share of plastic bottles. My organic ketchup comes in a plastic bottle. My citrus-based phosphate-free dish soap comes in a plastic bottle. I make lots of things myself, but unless I’ve grown the ingredients from scratch myself, a lot does still come in plastic bottles.

    I prefer glass for various reasons. However, my community recycling program does NOT accept glass containers! So it’s actually just as ‘green’ for us to use, and then recycle, the plastic, as it is for us to use, and then keep forever (or throw in the garbage) the glass containers.

    Anyway, one does not have to be 100% perfectly green at all times in all things in order to make a difference. In fact, that’s an attitude that can really slow down the pace of positive change. “Well, I can’t change EVERYTHING about my consumption habits at this precise moment, so I won’t bother changing ANYTHING because it would be hypocritical to do one green thing while not doing this other green thing.” Far better to change the one green thing that you can. If everyone did that, it would make a big difference just like that. And down the line, maybe you’ll be able to change more.

    Besides, the comic only says greenER, not greenEST. Someone who buys veggies from the farmer’s market, always brings their cloth grocery bags, and takes the bus when they can is pretty green. But they’re not as green as the person who installs a composting toilet, reuses their greywater, grows their own veggies, installs solar to go offgrid, and keeps their own chickens. It doesn’t mean the first person is a ‘poser’. They’re less committed to a fully green lifestyle, sure, they do have other priorities… but it’s still SOMETHING.

  7. fj Jul 9th 2013 at 10:29 am 7

    I think the impression we were supposed to get was that even though the Grass community has curbside recycling, Mr. Grass with the large wheeled bin has simply thrown everything into the garbage can where it will go to the dump. The “greener” Mr. Grass has presumably composted his own organic matter, and what is left is neatly arranged in his recycling bin.

    Of course, as Mitch is indicating, just because curbside recycling takes the container away does not mean that the product was a particularly green choice to begin with.

  8. Mark M Jul 9th 2013 at 10:36 am 8

    This discussion reminds me of the time I decided to switch from using styrofoam cups at work and bring in my own coffee mug. I was pretty proud of myself until I realized that I was using a couple paper towels to wipe it down before each cup. Now I rinse it out but even that is not completely energy free.

  9. Ian Osmond Jul 9th 2013 at 11:04 am 9

    As heather @ 6 suggests, PET is sometimes ironically “greener” than glass. Glass is so heavy that moving it to a recycling location is prohibitively expensive, both in terms of money and greenhouse gases. According to a guy I talked to who works for one of the trash/recycling companies, the cheapest and greenest way to get glass recycled from here in Boston is to send it to Florida — there’s a train that runs from here to there, and the fuel efficiency of trains for bulk transport is so much better than trucks that the Florida plant, which is right on the train line, is the only place to recycle glass on the East Coast. Getting the glass to the train from where I live is the more expensive part of the journey.

    But even if you can get it to a recycling plant cheaply, what do you do with it? I mean, now you’ve got a whole lot of mostly-broken glass in a big pile. Now what? Well, you melt it down to make more glass. But you’re not really saving that much energy over making new glass. It’s worth doing, but just barely. Glass recycling is pretty marginal.

    The exception is if you are re-using glass, instead of recycling it. The local organic dairy where I buy milk sells it in glass bottles that we return, then they wash and sterilize nearby, then refill. Because the bottles don’t go very far, and because they don’t have to be melted an re-manufactured, it absolutely IS a win. Or when I wash out the jars I have and re-use them to store things — that’s worth doing.

    On the other hand, uncolored PET bottles are light and crushable, and therefore easy to transport, and are easily and cheaply recyclable into new uncolored PET bottles. Colored PET bottles, like most laundry detergent bottles, are less useful, but there are now a few places that are recycling those into building materials — obviously, when you mix together a bunch of colored bottles, you get an ugly brownish-grayish color, but, if you’re using it for things where aesthetics aren’t a consideration, it works pretty well. The things are about as strong as brick, but weigh not even a tenth as much.

    So, yeah. Glass recycling? Not as much of a win as you’d think. Still worth doing, but barely. Plastic recycling? Absolute, total win, way more than you think.

  10. Boise Ed Jul 9th 2013 at 05:31 pm 10

    If recycling is so “green,” why are recycling containers always blue?

  11. Keera Jul 11th 2013 at 11:58 am 11

    All of these made me LOL.

    Mark M @8, there’s less waste added to the city dump, and also less water wasted making new paper cups. That’s why washing your own mug (and I do mean cup) is greener.

  12. Meryl A Jul 12th 2013 at 02:27 am 12

    We had a recycling bin, rectangular box. It was destroyed by garbage men leaving it in the street - 4 lane main road. I went to get a new one. It was 1.5 times the size and too big for our porch. Husband’s mom’s house was being sold, I traded the new one for the old one at her house (unused, she never recycled).

    New one damaged the same way. The garbage men took it away one day. I have been using cardboard boxes since, which also recycles the box, without a problem.

    We went away for July 4th. We come home late Saturday after. There is a huge green garbage can (as big as my regular one) that we are now suppose to use for recycling on the logic that if the container is larger one will recycle more. (Huh, will one go out and buy more stuff just to recycle more?) We can’t use it and I am going to write a complaint to the town supervisor about the stupidity and waste of money, let alone the idea of delivering these on one of the busiest vacation weeks when, like mine, it sat outside showing everyone we were not home.

  13. Cidu Bill Jul 12th 2013 at 02:36 am 13

    Not only that, Meryl, if the bin itself isn’t easily recycled, it will eventually just add to the problem.

  14. Kilby Jul 22nd 2013 at 05:24 am 14

    This SMBC isn’t synchronous, but it’s still worth mentioning: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3053

  15. Kilby Jul 22nd 2013 at 05:26 am 15

    P.S. I never really liked the old hand-drawn SMBC interface, but the new one is even worse.

  16. mitch4 Jul 22nd 2013 at 07:28 am 16

    I don’t much like the look of it, either, but will get used to it. It does seem meant to convey “comic strip!” more.

    Also emphasizing the keystroke navigation, which I believe worked before this but wasn’t made such a big deal. I’m not sure who it’s meant for, though.

  17. Elyrest Jul 22nd 2013 at 10:13 am 17

    I’m not overly taken with the new SMBC look. For some reason I’m less inclined to read it than before. It looks less “comic strip!” to me. Maybe it’s the lighter colors? Zach Weiner has mentioned the keystroke navigation on a regular basis before, but must’ve felt the need to post it for some reason. Someone must use it.

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