1883

Cidu Bill on Jan 28th 2013

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31 Responses to “1883”

  1. James Pollock Jan 28th 2013 at 12:05 am 1

    Normally you only get actors as your waiter, but here you get a re-enACTOR.

    Note that he says 1883, not 1863. Perhaps his problem is that he’s selected an era that just doesn’t have wide popularity.

    Noted. And changed -Bill

  2. Charlene Jan 28th 2013 at 01:05 am 2

    What is the 1883 War? Two years later and you’d have the North-West Rebellion (which is at least the right country), but 1883?

  3. mitch4 Jan 28th 2013 at 01:26 am 3

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Pacific is the nearest to a reslt I get from searching “1883 war”, but it doesn’t seem very likely applicable.

  4. Kilby Jan 28th 2013 at 02:58 am 4

    I think the point is that he is so dumb that he doesn’t even know the correct date of the war that he wants to act in, that’s why he’s waiting tables for a living.

  5. Proginoskes Jan 28th 2013 at 04:11 am 5

    Why should the “Civil War” be the only one that gets reinacted?

  6. Frank the curmudgeon Jan 28th 2013 at 04:50 am 6

    Sino French War (Viet Nam) & Zulu Civil War were ongoing in 1883.

  7. DemetriosX Jan 28th 2013 at 05:49 am 7

    It was also the early stages of the Mahdist Revolt in Sudan. Actually, there were probably a number of little brush fire skirmishes going on in the British Empire, but 1883 seems to be a fairly peaceful year. It’s an odd choice. And don’t most reenactors identify as a “________ War” reenactor than by a given year? I think James @1 has the joke, it’s just that the execution is off. He’d have been better off going with some really obscure little conflict with no or almost no actual fighting, like the Toledo War or the Pig War.

  8. Powers Jan 28th 2013 at 07:38 am 8

    Proginoskes: The Civil War is unique in several respects, as far as the U.S. history of war goes.

    1) It pit American vs. American, allowing Americans to portray both sides of the conflict without having to act like foreigners, affect accents, etc.
    2) It was the first major conflict fought after the widespread adoption of photography, which means we have a relative plethora of visual imagery available to re-enact.
    3) It was fought (on land, at least) with relatively light equipment which can be owned, carried and set up by amateur re-enactors.

    A few other conflicts may meet one of those criteria, but not all three.

  9. yellojkt Jan 28th 2013 at 07:57 am 9

    Proginoskes:
    At most Civil war re-enactments, the Confederates outnumber the Union by a large margin suggesting that it’s popularity is linked to the notion of the CSA as a noble ‘lost cause’, particularly among rural Southerners.

  10. yellojkt Jan 28th 2013 at 08:00 am 10

    Powers:

    World War II is probably the second most popular era for military re-enactors (discounting the SCA) and there are far more German ‘units’ in the US than Allied. Draw whatever conclusions you wish.

  11. mark d Jan 28th 2013 at 08:28 am 11

    Since there is no 1883 War (noted capitalization of “War”) and the waiter isn’t even a real actor (only an aspiring one), I’m thinking this place is a restaurant of the absurd.

  12. Carolyn Jan 28th 2013 at 08:34 am 12

    What is the person in the foreground doing/holding? I feel like I am just looking at her incorrectly, like an optical illusion, but I cannot figure out what the long thing is.

  13. Dan W Jan 28th 2013 at 08:56 am 13

    @ James Pollock: “Normally you only get actors as your waiter”? You do? I can’t say this has ever happened to me! At least, not that I know of; my waitstaff isn’t usually in the habit of telling me about what they do when they’re not waiting tables.

  14. Morris Keesan Jan 28th 2013 at 08:57 am 14

    Living next door to Lexington, Massachusetts, I see lots of American Revolution reenactors.

  15. Lost in A**2 Jan 28th 2013 at 10:22 am 15

    Carolyn, my guess is that it is a crustacean’s leg.

  16. Judge Mental Jan 28th 2013 at 11:07 am 16

    The point was not only does he not aspire to be a “regular” actor (as does the stereotypical waiter), he only aspires to be a war re-enactor. And not only that, but the war he aspires to reenact is a totally obscure one.

  17. Ian Osmond Jan 28th 2013 at 12:06 pm 17

    Not related to the comic, but I’ve met Civil War reenactors from Great Britain. Cavaliers get better outfits, but Roundheads get better armor.

  18. John Jan 28th 2013 at 01:21 pm 18

    Everyone is missing the obvious fact that he is wearing a hat from the 1884 War! Not to mention his canteen is on the wrong side! Really people, get with the program.

  19. DemetriosX Jan 28th 2013 at 02:14 pm 19

    @13 Dan W
    It’s something of a cliche that waitstaff, especially in LA and NYC, are all just actors waiting for their break and they tell all their customers in case said customer is someone in the business who can give them a break. Actually, in the late 80s it became “But what I really want to do is direct” followed in the 90s by “But what I really want to do is produce.”

  20. Ron Jan 28th 2013 at 05:16 pm 20

    Canteen on the wrong side? I can’t tell what the hat even looks like and the lady is nibbling on a bread stick (or kissing it, like the hat it’s hard to tell).

  21. Ron Jan 28th 2013 at 05:21 pm 21

    OK, I put my glasses on and I now see the hat. I also see that he’s a “leftee” so I’m guessing that’s why the canteen is over his right cheek.

  22. fj Jan 28th 2013 at 05:39 pm 22

  23. zbicyclist Jan 28th 2013 at 07:18 pm 23

    Isn’t part of the joke that re-enactors don’t get paid? He’s aspiring for a nonexistent 1883 job that wouldn’t pay.

  24. Rainey Jan 28th 2013 at 07:52 pm 24

    I heard a casting call over the radio that one reenactment outfit was hiring amputees to play the parts (no sick pun intended) of Civil War casualities. I think it’s a great idea. I realize this has nothing to do with the strip itself but I didn’t know where else to post this and I wondered if anybody agreed with me.

  25. WombatJoe Jan 28th 2013 at 09:26 pm 25

    The waiter is wearing boots, and the pants appear to have a stripe down the leg. Could be US Cavalry (non-com or officer) from the Plains War era which was just wrapping up in 1883.

    I’ve done some Civil War reenactments and the CSA is usually better represented - yellowjkt is correct it’s that whole ‘Lost Cause’ mythology. As for the WWII - the German’s as a rule had the better (read cooler) equipment and nicer looking uniforms.

  26. Mark in Boston Jan 28th 2013 at 10:17 pm 26

    So when are we going to start seeing War on Drugs reenactors?

  27. James Pollock Jan 28th 2013 at 10:45 pm 27

    “I heard a casting call over the radio that one reenactment outfit was hiring amputees to play the parts (no sick pun intended) of Civil War casualities. ”

    Kubrick used this gimmick when he was making “Spartacus”, because he didn’t have digital effects to play with.

  28. Meryl A Jan 30th 2013 at 01:36 am 28

    (US) Civil War is NOT the only war reenacted. There are reenactors around the world reenacting from the Roman times through the first Gulf War. Husband and I are American Revolutionary War era reenactors, although we mostly do civilian reenacting, our unit has 1775 as its primary year, just on the cusp of the coming war. There are reenactors of civilian periods also so the charecter can be between wars.

    Reenactors are the soldiers in many movies, bringing their own gear, and they often end up lending things to the cast. There is a reenactor’s union for those who appear in movies. A really good example is the movie “Sweet Liberty”. This shows what filming a movie is like for reenactors. Some members of our unit and of a military unit located nearby were in it. A friend of ours has been, along with his jolly boat, in a number of television productions, including on PBS. Another friend played several parts in a TV miniseries on the revolution. Others we know who do different periods, including one who portrays Teddy Roosevelt, have been in an assortment of television productions.

    We did a local timeline event for the Township that our unit is from for their 350th anniversary. As much as I like our period it was really exciting to see the Vietnam era reeactors to arrive in their line of jeeps and park in front of their tank and helicopter.

    Husband offered if you would like to see about a 1770’s unit to see our website (if I am overstepping, I apologize, Bill feel free to edit out) at www.huntingtonmilitia.com

  29. Elyrest Jan 30th 2013 at 12:02 pm 29

    Meryl A - I’m sure that Bill wouldn’t mind a link to your site. In fact when you leave a reply there’s a place for you to enter your website. If you do that, when your comment appears here, anyone can click on your name to look at your website. A number of people here already have their websites connected with their names.

    Thanks for the look at your site. I enjoyed looking at what people wore. Are the clothes uncomfortable? Do you make your own clothes and are they all-natural materials that you’d find at the time? Thanks for any answers.

  30. Meryl A Feb 7th 2013 at 02:07 am 30

    Some of us make our clothes and some purchase them. There is an entire industry of “sutlers” who sell stuff to reenactors (and others). They are at market fairs as well as having websites. It is the unit website and I think there are links to some of the better sutlers.

    Clothing has to be made of natural material for safety. When modern “plastic” fabrics such as polyester burn they melt and will melt to one’s skin. When linen,cotton, wool, or silk burn they become ash. When one is standing over a fire cooking or firing a flintlock there is always a chance of something catching fire. (Unit has a reproduction cannon. Husband was firing it at a memorial event and there was some ash or such and his shirt sleeve caught fire. Luckily it was a very hot day and it was not an actual reenactment and one of the guys poured his bottled water over husband and put it out. (Now I have to replace the sleeve.) We always have water buckets nearby (and a fire extinguisher).

    The clothes are very comfortable. I am the type of person who wears jeans and Tshirts unless I am at work or a formal occasion and I wear stays at events. I prefer them to bras. They are not pulled tightly (no normal woman ever had an 18″ waist and that is a corset and almost 100 years later and unresearched fiction)and are intended to give support to one’s back and give one a conical shape above the waist. (Boys and girls wore them as children.) I wear a work outfit not a gown as I have not had a chance to make a gown. Husband keeps threatening to tell people I am his indenture.

    It is a really fun hobby. Our unit is a “militia” which means that we are civilians and most of our events are local and the men gathering together to practice shooting with wives visiting. We are lucky in that we are on the same Village Green that the original of our unit practiced on and use the same building that they did as our headquarters. During the actual Revolution our unit did not exist as the Village Green was the headquarters for the British on LI. Almost any British officer that one hears of passed through here at some time. Our headquarters housed Hessians. We are lucky that we have some records to work with including the day the Declaration of Independence arrived and was read out loud. We reenact this annually and recreate some of the events that occurred. We are currently trying to put together an “Under the Redcoat” event but have to find a British unit willing to come here for such a small event. By the way, in those days all men 16-60 were REQUIRED to own a gun and to serve in the local militia.

    We are a small unit, but have a lot of fun together and get to talk about history in way that makes people think. Husband and I and some others in the unit sometimes do what is called first person. We know nothing past the same date in the year we are interpreting. We do this at a candlelight event at a local restoration village in December and people like when we argue and yell at each other from one room to the next, as well as the odd ways of doing things. The first time we did the candlelight nights it took a week or so after for us to start using contractions again.

    I hope I did not run on too long.

  31. Cidu Bill Feb 7th 2013 at 02:13 am 31

    Or you could have just left the shirtsleeve burnt off for the sake of authenticity: when these accidents happened during the war, few of the men had their wives nearby with sewing machines.

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