Unless this is Alanis Morissette as a baby, I’m stumped

Cidu Bill on May 4th 2012

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Filed in Bill Bickel, CIDU, New Yorker, comics, humor | 29 responses so far

29 Responses to “Unless this is Alanis Morissette as a baby, I’m stumped”

  1. Emily May 4th 2012 at 12:06 am 1

    Hipsters. They wear all kinds of fashion accessories “ironically.” This cartoon just extends the idea to children.

  2. Johannes May 4th 2012 at 03:13 am 2

    I’m not clear as to how to interpret the expression on the left person’s face: below the nose there are two lines, one long and thin, and below that a shorter and thicker one. I first thought that the shorter thicker one is an open, speaking mouth, in which case the longer thinner line looks like a moustache. So are we dealing with a gay couple who have adopted the children? The other possibility is that the long thin line is a frowning mouth, and then the shorter thicker one is the indenture between the lip and the chin. Who is then talking, and why the frown?

  3. DemetriosX May 4th 2012 at 05:44 am 3

    I had the same questions about the sex of the person on the left as Johannes @2, but if they’re both male, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re a gay couple. Since the stroller is only for one and the kids seem to be about the same age, they could just be a pair of hipster fathers. But I do wonder about what the guy (?) on the left is wearing. Do NYC hipsters wear flowered shorts?

  4. The Bad Seed May 4th 2012 at 05:45 am 4

    Yup, that’s the Brooklyn Bridge in the background, this is Hipsters (with a capital H) in their natural habitat. I thought the one on the left was female at first, but that’s definitely a pale mustache above the mouth. I don’t think they’re a gay couple, just a couple of male hipster friends strolling and talking pompously. Each of them has enough of what are referred to as “ironic” fashion statements (i.e. trucker hat, weird facial hair, printed shorts with a tie, pageboy haircut), I guess they consider the babies as “ironic”, too.

  5. George P May 4th 2012 at 06:13 am 5

    The mustache and beard look fake, so maybe it’s a hetero couple cross-dressing.

  6. Johannes May 4th 2012 at 06:33 am 6

    Of course they don’t have to be a couple! Huh, I wonder what that say about my prejudices…

  7. David A. Rooney May 4th 2012 at 07:37 am 7

    So he’s saying his child is just an ironic accessory?

  8. mitch4 May 4th 2012 at 08:02 am 8

    It would be terribly sad if he really meant it. We can hope he’s just momentarily wrapped up in the conversational moment to take this exaggerated ironic pose.

  9. Mark M May 4th 2012 at 09:27 am 9

    This must be one of those “You have to live in NYC to get” jokes.

  10. mitch4 May 4th 2012 at 09:40 am 10

    Mark, there do seem to be a few geographic specifics in the drawing, which helpful posters have explained for us, but I wouldn’t think them essential to the joke. (Or “bitterly amused commentary” more than”joke”.) I haven’t been to New York in a long time, and don’t really know the place, but think I got the essence of the cartoon.

    Any city these days, plus of course the traditional airwaves and the good ol’ interwebs, has loads of mostly youngish people trying to find their stance on how to fit in the world, and choosing something like the guys in this cartoon. That’s why Jesse Thorn’s “The New Sincerity” initiative on The Sound of Young America seemed so refreshingly out-of-step. And if you catch the TV sitcom “Up All Night” you can see a further phase of trying to get past the demand for ironic detachment.

  11. mitch4 May 4th 2012 at 09:44 am 11

    (Though I have no idea of what point Bill is making regarding Alanis Morrisette. Is that the part that needs NYC insider knowledge? Or maybe it’s just a gap for me. I hardly have heard much of her music, and know nothing about her biography, but thought she was pretty good as a repeating guest actor a couple years ago on Weeds.)

  12. Keith B May 4th 2012 at 10:02 am 12

    @11: She wrote a song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v9yUVgrmPY

    (Though the most ironic thing about the song is that nothing in it is particularly ironic)

  13. mark d May 4th 2012 at 10:25 am 13

    These kids are already part of the hipster ironic ethos (note the one child’s cap). At some point they’ll be old enough to understand their irony heritage and how it is passed along, at least partly, in the jeans.

  14. MollyJ May 4th 2012 at 10:36 am 14

    It’s kind of like a pair of Christians asking each other, “When do you introduce the concept of Jesus as your personal Lord and savior?” It’s a matter of discussing how to impart to your child that which you hope will be the driving force of his life.

    Speaking of Christianity and Alanis Morrisette, my favorite AM moment is her turning somersaults on the grass when she played God in the movie Dogma.

  15. DPWally May 4th 2012 at 10:38 am 15

    That’s not the Brooklyn Bridge, it’s the Williamsburg Bridge. See photo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamsburg_Bridge

    Which means we’re looking at either the Lower East Side or Williamsburg. Good places to find hipsters and other trendy people, but they’re everywhere so I don’t think location is important to the joke.

    I’m having trouble with left-guy’s clothing. House slippers and floral shorts/boxers with a sleeveless cardigan and long-sleeve shirt buttoned to the collar, possibly with a tie or bolo. Who dresses like that?

  16. fuzzmaster May 4th 2012 at 11:04 am 16

    It appears to be Emo Phillips talking to Mitch Miller, so I’m going with “it’s Dada.”

  17. Elyrest May 4th 2012 at 11:49 am 17

    I think that the comic is just a jaded commentary on jaded hipsters. If everything they’re wearing fits into a hipster ethos then the baby must too.

    Ironically, I just got new computer glasses that look a little “hipsterish” to me, but I love them anyway. I told my sister that they were ironic if you used all the wrong definitions of irony.

    And I can’t go without commenting on fuzzmaster’s comment - who pairs Mitch Miller and Emo Phillips? I just love the idea of the two of them together. I’ve seen Emo twice and he made a nicely bawdy comment to me about not having children that still makes me smile over twenty years later.

  18. MollyJ May 4th 2012 at 12:32 pm 18

    I’m not seeing Emo Phillips, though I did think the guy with the stroller looked a little like Fidel Castro.

  19. chemgal May 4th 2012 at 12:36 pm 19

    I think Molly @14 has it.

  20. DPWally May 4th 2012 at 01:07 pm 20

    I think a closer analogy is “What’s the right age to tell a child she’s adopted?”. The “ironic” child didn’t come to the family in the most common way, she came to the family in a snarky “we’re having a child to show our disdain for families with children” way.

    Also, that’s not the Brooklyn Bridge, it’s the Williamsburg Bridge. (I posted that earlier with a link to wikipedia, but it’s still awaiting moderation.)

  21. Pinny May 4th 2012 at 01:32 pm 21

    That is definitely NOT the Brooklyn Bridge. One of the several very noticeable features of the Brooklyn Bridge is its radial supports — which this one does not have ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Bridge ).

    What it is is the Williamsburg Bridge ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamsburg_Bridge ).

    For those of you who don’t know, the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn (where the bridge originates its connection to Manhattan) is a VERY popular place for hipsters ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamsburg,_Brooklyn#Arts_community ).

    That last point would seem to give the joke its final bit of closure. (And you DEFINITELY have to be familiar with NYC in order to really get this joke.)

  22. Pinny May 4th 2012 at 01:34 pm 22

    Oops! Didn’t read to the end of DPWally (#19) before posting. Sorry.

  23. Paperboy May 4th 2012 at 02:17 pm 23

    I agree with chemgal#18 that MollyJ#14 has it.

  24. Bodkin Van Horn May 4th 2012 at 02:53 pm 24

    Having a baby is too mainstream. Therefore, if you are a hipster, you can only have a baby ironically.

  25. Todd May 4th 2012 at 05:34 pm 25

    After having recently heard that the “man” who had a baby and “his” wife are splitting up, I’m convinced that these are both “men” who used to be women who had babies the natural way.

  26. Sal May 4th 2012 at 11:17 pm 26

    a little too ironic, yeah I really do think

  27. fuzzmaster May 5th 2012 at 01:45 pm 27

  28. Meryl A May 9th 2012 at 01:43 am 28

    Pinney,

    But it’s not blue? :-)

  29. Cub Jul 18th 2012 at 02:13 am 29

    It seemed to me that the baldheaded kids are ironic because their fathers are so hairy. LOL

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