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	<description>JFK: ''we choose to go to the ...''</description>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40780</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 20:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And only days later, Wizard of Id does a bit about the treasury being so full that the king decides to build a bigger vault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And only days later, Wizard of Id does a bit about the treasury being so full that the king decides to build a bigger vault.</p>
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		<title>By: Igelino</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40630</link>
		<dc:creator>Igelino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one Gilgamesh. : )
Maybe that's what Bush's foreign policy was based on.  ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Gilgamesh. : )<br />
Maybe that&#8217;s what Bush&#8217;s foreign policy was based on.  ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Gilgamesh</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40602</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilgamesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 08:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If its' worried about its debt; all the United States has to do is screen its phone calls and not answer the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If its&#8217; worried about its debt; all the United States has to do is screen its phone calls and not answer the door.</p>
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		<title>By: J-L</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40532</link>
		<dc:creator>J-L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This joke works out pretty well, as it's provoking comments exactly in line with the images it's supposed to invoke.

In the second panel, we see that the treasury is practically nil (a bad thing).  In the third panel, we see the "spin" that makes it out to mean they're not in debt (a good thing).

However, I do see that in the third panel the king's eyebrows seem angry-looking, making me wonder if his last statement is supposed to be sarcastic.

Either way, the joke is all about the king's political spin that he puts on the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This joke works out pretty well, as it&#8217;s provoking comments exactly in line with the images it&#8217;s supposed to invoke.</p>
<p>In the second panel, we see that the treasury is practically nil (a bad thing).  In the third panel, we see the &#8220;spin&#8221; that makes it out to mean they&#8217;re not in debt (a good thing).</p>
<p>However, I do see that in the third panel the king&#8217;s eyebrows seem angry-looking, making me wonder if his last statement is supposed to be sarcastic.</p>
<p>Either way, the joke is all about the king&#8217;s political spin that he puts on the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Detcord</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40517</link>
		<dc:creator>Detcord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 05:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40517</guid>
		<description>furrykef (14)

China is not the "only" creditor to the US.  It is, or was until recently, simply the "largest" creditor.  Since selling a portion of that debt ($34 billion), Japan now takes (back) that honor.  You'll recall in my #2 post a link that reports the US national debt at $13 Trillion, and growing.

Ted in FL (16) is correct, with reference to my #10 link.  There I was simply trying to answer paperboy's question about creditor vs. debtor nations.  There can't be one without the other.  As far as T-bills are concerned, you may find this link interesting.

http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>furrykef (14)</p>
<p>China is not the &#8220;only&#8221; creditor to the US.  It is, or was until recently, simply the &#8220;largest&#8221; creditor.  Since selling a portion of that debt ($34 billion), Japan now takes (back) that honor.  You&#8217;ll recall in my #2 post a link that reports the US national debt at $13 Trillion, and growing.</p>
<p>Ted in FL (16) is correct, with reference to my #10 link.  There I was simply trying to answer paperboy&#8217;s question about creditor vs. debtor nations.  There can&#8217;t be one without the other.  As far as T-bills are concerned, you may find this link interesting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.ustreas.gov/tic/mfh.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Winter Wallaby</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40511</link>
		<dc:creator>Winter Wallaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furrykef, a national debt has potential problems even if the nation pays it back. It's true that debt is not always bad - however, it's not true that there's no problem just because you can pay the debt back. The debt I took out to pay for college may have been a good investment. However the debt I took out to buy a fancy sports car, that depreciated rapidly, while leaving me stuck with high monthly payments that mostly only covered the interest, was probably bad. In my opinion, most of our debt is more analogous to the fancy car. Our foreign debt comes from the fact that we have a culture that encourages people to buy stuff they don't really need, and to live on the margin, while China is using the interest on their loans to us to finance long-term improvements in their country.

Domestic debt is different, but still potentially problematic. Yes, the government is borrowing the money from its own citizens, but that doesn't make it costless. People have a limited willingness to loan money, and I make a choice whether to buy government bonds, corporate bonds, or stocks. When the federal debt is larger, the government has to offer higher rates on bonds to attract previously uninterested investors, pulling them away from corporate bonds and stocks. That means both that a higher portion of the federal budget has to go to simply servicing the debt (rather than, say, building roads), and that businesses have less capital for activities that would improve the economy (e.g. issuing bonds to finance a new widget factory).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furrykef, a national debt has potential problems even if the nation pays it back. It&#8217;s true that debt is not always bad - however, it&#8217;s not true that there&#8217;s no problem just because you can pay the debt back. The debt I took out to pay for college may have been a good investment. However the debt I took out to buy a fancy sports car, that depreciated rapidly, while leaving me stuck with high monthly payments that mostly only covered the interest, was probably bad. In my opinion, most of our debt is more analogous to the fancy car. Our foreign debt comes from the fact that we have a culture that encourages people to buy stuff they don&#8217;t really need, and to live on the margin, while China is using the interest on their loans to us to finance long-term improvements in their country.</p>
<p>Domestic debt is different, but still potentially problematic. Yes, the government is borrowing the money from its own citizens, but that doesn&#8217;t make it costless. People have a limited willingness to loan money, and I make a choice whether to buy government bonds, corporate bonds, or stocks. When the federal debt is larger, the government has to offer higher rates on bonds to attract previously uninterested investors, pulling them away from corporate bonds and stocks. That means both that a higher portion of the federal budget has to go to simply servicing the debt (rather than, say, building roads), and that businesses have less capital for activities that would improve the economy (e.g. issuing bonds to finance a new widget factory).</p>
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		<title>By: David N</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40509</link>
		<dc:creator>David N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, anyway.  :)   I think California, Nevada, New Mexico ad nauseum would love to be a penny over.  A quarter, and hecktitude would break on the streets of Sacramento.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, anyway.  <img src='http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think California, Nevada, New Mexico ad nauseum would love to be a penny over.  A quarter, and hecktitude would break on the streets of Sacramento.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted in Fort Lauderdale</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40502</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted in Fort Lauderdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 23:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Furrykey 14/15 - You are correct - Detcord's linked page shows the current account balance for 2009 for major countries, where current account balance in this case means overall net trade balance.  The US's significant trade deficit is not something to ignore, but pretty unrelated to the national debt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Furrykey 14/15 - You are correct - Detcord&#8217;s linked page shows the current account balance for 2009 for major countries, where current account balance in this case means overall net trade balance.  The US&#8217;s significant trade deficit is not something to ignore, but pretty unrelated to the national debt&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: furrykef</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40498</link>
		<dc:creator>furrykef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 22:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I think the word "credit" in my final sentence should have been "surplus", but still, same deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I think the word &#8220;credit&#8221; in my final sentence should have been &#8220;surplus&#8221;, but still, same deal.</p>
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		<title>By: furrykef</title>
		<link>http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/2010/05/27/though-actually/#comment-40497</link>
		<dc:creator>furrykef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 22:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Detcord #11 -- the link you provided (not to be confused with the link in post #13) doesn't seem to be talking about the same thing at all. The link you gave would have a U.S. "national debt" of $380 billion in 2009. But the U.S. national debt has been well into the trillions for a very long time, not "merely" hundreds of billions, so obviously those figures are describing something other than national debt (namely, I believe, the trade credit/deficit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detcord #11 &#8212; the link you provided (not to be confused with the link in post #13) doesn&#8217;t seem to be talking about the same thing at all. The link you gave would have a U.S. &#8220;national debt&#8221; of $380 billion in 2009. But the U.S. national debt has been well into the trillions for a very long time, not &#8220;merely&#8221; hundreds of billions, so obviously those figures are describing something other than national debt (namely, I believe, the trade credit/deficit).</p>
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