Comments on: Rahm, Spaceknight?

By: Elyrest

Elyrest — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:56:54 +0000

“This one took 4 days to get to number 66; “First, Tell No Lies” did it in one (and the Arizona Immigration Law has been mentioned); I think that thread will go beyond 150 posts.”

I don’t know about that paperboy. I for one am all talked out on that one and I don’t care to start up on immigration.

By: paperboy

paperboy — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:15:07 +0000

Nicole. I’m going to throw in the towel. So close to the record, but I think we’ve exhausted this thread. And even if this one did beat the Global Warming thread, it would probably be the Mark McGwire of threads. This one took 4 days to get to number 66; “First, Tell No Lies” did it in one (and the Arizona Immigration Law has been mentioned); I think that thread will go beyond 150 posts.
“We triumph not in conquest, but in holding true in the struggle. The victories of our lives will not be measured in distance or number but in the intensity of our spirit. No matter our place at the end, we must emerge the better for it; competition must not forge ferocity, but create camaraderie. No tears, my fellows: you have done well.”

We tried.

By: paperboy

paperboy — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:05:31 +0000

Nicole#142- I don’t see how you can mock a person for a quality (fat) because of another quality (meanness), without both qualities being thought of as inherently unacceptable, and thus mocking all who share these characteristics.
Well, yes, it IS directed at Rush and Rush alone, but his fat has no will of it’s own, no political thought; it’s not right-wing fat. It’s the same fat as Gabourey Sidibe’s; as John Goodman’s; as Michael Moore’s. (And we ARE talking the fat aspect only; insulting Rush doesn’t bother me. A joke like “Mr. President, the committee is here to discuss storing dangerous wastes in the Yucca Flats”. “Like Limbaugh?”. “Rahm!” is fine with me.)

By: Nicole

Nicole — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:36:56 +0000

Am I the only one to notice that the cancer cell Rush is rather obese.

Paperboy #138 — To be honest Beetle Baily is a throw away comic to me, I pretty much forget it right after I read it. So I can’t really say if there are jokes that make fun of Sarge’s weight or are because of it.

I disagree that the ‘fat’ aspect of it is added because “fat people are ridiculous” … I see this directed at Rush and Rush alone who is not, lets face it svelt. If the joke had read something like this :
We have a new ray that will cure people of their drug addiction
Like Limbaugh ?
Rham!!!

Would you say it was making fun of all drug addicts or just Rush ? Admittedly my version doesn’t have the bite that the cartoon has, but you get the point.

By: Elyrest

Elyrest — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:32:13 +0000

Detcord (140) - No it doesn’t happen very often as Cidu Bill usually frowns upon it. He has stated that cartoonists have had their chance to make their point when they do the comic. This forum is here for us readers.

By: Detcord

Detcord — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:25:39 +0000

Wow. I know I haven’t been around here long, but that is the first time I have encountered a cartoonist defending [sort of] his own ‘toon. Does this happen often?

By: Elyrest

Elyrest — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:12:45 +0000

There are many comics that make fun of fat people. It’s a constant refrain in Shoe. Belittling the overweight is common in daily life also. There have been many article lately about the airlines charging for tickets by the pound and there was Kevin Smith kicked off a Southwest flight because of his weight. When I look at the reader comments they mock, belittle and insult anyone who is overweight. People do this because society allows it. Everyone has faults and/or diseases, but the overweight are one group that can’t hide their problems - they are right out there in front/behind for everyone to see.

By: paperboy

paperboy — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:35:19 +0000

Nicole#132- “Keepin’ the thread … and the dream alive”. You’re right. We’ve come so far… endured so much. To stop now would mean the Global Warming thread wins. Onward… to victory!

To me, there’s a mitigating factor in such comics as Beetle Bailey, which is that the joke (or attempt at one) derives FROM Sarge’s weight, not in mockery OF it. Mike’s joke of Rahm wanting to send Rush into orbit seemed to have the “fat” aspect added on, just because, well, fat people are “ridiculous”. (as I said in #34, you can get the same point without the “fat Joke”.)
Why would Mike need to use a fat joke to “serve a point”?
In 1988, I did a series of cartoons for the “amusement” (and to needle the Republicans) of my co-workers. In each, I substituted the word “$h!t” with “George [H.W.] Bush” ( In one, a farmer says to a couple of hikers: “Sure, you can cross my field; just be careful you don’t step in the George Bush”), things like that. Part of the joke was on myself; that it was so bone-headed, so lacking in cleverness or insight, just juvenile glee at expressing my dislike.

By: Keera

Keera — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:07:57 +0000

If we’re what goes into the sausage, then I’d say it’s the world’s best. And one thing’s for sure: This joke isn’t a CIDU!

By: Cidu Bill

Cidu Bill — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:02:41 +0000

I don’t know, Keera, do we really want to be in on the creation of a joke? “Sausage,” you know…