Just wondering…

Cidu Bill on Feb 26th 2010

Would this story even be a story if we were talking about the men’s hockey team? And would apologies be issued?

Filed in Bill Bickel, Olympics | 26 responses so far

26 Responses to “Just wondering…”

  1. Chakolate Feb 26th 2010 at 03:08 pm 1

    If one of them really tried to hijack the ice machine? Probably.

  2. paperboy Feb 26th 2010 at 03:14 pm 2

    There is a “Man Bites Dog” aspect to it, so that makes it “news”.

  3. Cidu Bill Feb 26th 2010 at 03:22 pm 3

    Interesting… the article’s headline changed since I posted this. Originally it was “Hockey Canada sorry for women’s antics”

  4. Kate C Feb 26th 2010 at 03:22 pm 4

    Would be a story; wouldn’t be a pearl-clutching “scandal.”

  5. Cidu Bill Feb 26th 2010 at 03:25 pm 5

    Well said, Kate C

  6. Charlene Feb 26th 2010 at 05:17 pm 6

    I disagree with Kate C. If it had been the guys’ team, it wouldn’t have even made Page C24 of the Yukon Yakker.

    Then again, the general opinion here is that the IOC is looking like a pack of nutjobs over this. The attitude seems to be that Canadian girls can drink Canadian beer on Canadian ice any old time they want to, and complaining about it is distinctly unCanadian. Even some of the crusty old-time sports writers are wondering if this is some kind of bizarre reaction to girls smoking cigars, and all that might connote to a pearl-clutching IOC official.

  7. Judge Mental Feb 26th 2010 at 05:42 pm 7

    I guarantee you that if it had been the men’s team, there would indeed still been an apology having to be issued for having alcohol on the ice, particularly with an under-age drinker. However, the fact it was the women’s team does make for a juicier story.

  8. Rasheed Feb 26th 2010 at 05:57 pm 8

    During Summer Olympics (Athens?), the U.S. Men’s relay team got flack for “Adonis-posing” with the flag. “Error in judgement/decorum” seems appropriate labels for both incidents, but I also don’t see anything worth mentioning twice.

  9. furrykef Feb 26th 2010 at 06:16 pm 9

    Well, you can’t deny that women smoking cigars does seem a bit unusual. Whether or not it should be is a completely different question.

    I’ve never been a fan of “tertiary sexual characteristics” — the social differences between men and women. I mean, when we get down to it, people are people. But such practices do exist, and it is shocking to some when the conventions are ignored.

    In short: humans are silly. Nothing new there.

    - Kef

  10. S.P. Charles Feb 26th 2010 at 06:18 pm 10

    Why couldn’t they just rip off their shirts like female Olympians are supposed to do after a team sports win?

  11. paperboy Feb 26th 2010 at 07:09 pm 11

    Female-Olympian-Shirt-Ripper Five!

  12. Jeff S. Feb 26th 2010 at 09:43 pm 12

    This issue was brought up on the Dan Patrick radio show today. They took a poll… 85% of the respondents had no problem with what the women did. The real problem here is twofold –
    1) The were celebrating in the locker room, then got called back out on the ice after the crowd had left. If they had STAYED in the locker room, the issue would never have been an issue.
    2) They got called out for PHOTOS, meaning there was a photographer there. Sure, they were happy they won, but they needed to use a bit more common sense. In this day and age, anything you do in public is fodder for the internet and/or public scrutiny.

    All in all, I don’t think it’s possible for me to care less. If they want to smoke cigars, fine. If they want to drink, fine as well. Just act a little more responsible when doing so in public.

  13. padraig Feb 26th 2010 at 10:57 pm 13

    Hey, these are CANADIAN women, HOCKEY playing Canadian women at that. You’re doing well if you can stop them from spitting tobacco juice on the ice. And don’t get me started on the Canadian coach, other than to say I didn’t know Larry Bird had a twin sister.

    (note: am a fan of Univ of Wisconsin women’s hockey, and YES I am frickin’ bitter.)

  14. Rainey Feb 27th 2010 at 12:07 am 14

    This would actually be MORE of a story if this was the men’s hockey team because men get heavier legal repercussions than women when they break laws. ( Unless things are different in Canada than in the United States. )

  15. Frank the curmudgeon Feb 27th 2010 at 01:35 am 15

    Hell, I want to see them wave their jerseys around. A bit of exuberance, go for it. If it couldn’t have been the American girls I’m glad it was the McKenzie Sisters. Vive les Hoserettes.

  16. mitch4 Feb 27th 2010 at 01:49 am 16

    Chakolate brought up the element that’s still missing from the story — Did they bring the Zamboni out for a spin?

  17. chuckers Feb 27th 2010 at 04:25 am 17

    I am wondering what the story says “ice-resurfacing machine” INSTEAD of using the word Zamboni. Who doesn’t know what a Zamboni is? Any fan of Charlie Brown should know it.

  18. chuckers Feb 27th 2010 at 04:31 am 18

    Oh, and another thing. Was it really “out in public” if the crowd had already left? The Mrs. just mentioned this story to me after seeing it on the news here and (being third hand) I got the impression that after they stepped off the podium, the brought out the stogies and booze. THAT would have been unacceptable.

    The article says everyone else had long since left the stadium. They apparently didn’t party with any Chippendale dancers and if the area was empty, so what? Also assuming they didn’t damage the rink through rowdiness as well, of course. Wanton destruction of public property would have put it into no-no area for me.

  19. Dave Feb 27th 2010 at 06:52 am 19

    >I didn’t know Larry Bird had a twin sister

    Ha! I thought the same thing (more or less).

    The story I read said a “cigar” was passed around, singular. Let them be happy, I say. Too much raw emotion and enthusiasm is dampened in sports in an attempt to enforce someone’s mores, or sportsmanship (football’s celebration rule comes to mind, which is too often called for the offense of just being joyful about accomplishing what you’ve been dedicating yourself to).

    Pretty solid goaltending by Szabados, eh?

  20. mkilby Feb 27th 2010 at 06:54 am 20

    @ chuckers (17) - It appears that some of the wire service reports use “Zamboni” as a generic term for “ice resurfacer”, but it is only one particular brand name for that type of machine. I know that in a report on the ice problems in the speed skating rink, a different brand name was mentioned as being used (at least for that rink).

  21. chuckers Feb 27th 2010 at 07:35 am 21

    @mkilby,

    Yeah, I had I think about it for a while and realised that Zamboni was probably a trademark name much like Kleenex for tissues. At least I capitalised it.

  22. Powers Feb 27th 2010 at 08:56 am 22

    To me, the real issue is twofold: 1) The legal drinking age in BC (as in much of Canada) is 19, and not all of the players are 19. 2) The celebration was done in “public”. Yes, the crowd had left, but as noted, there were photographers still there. If the men’s hockey team had done the above two things, I think there would be just as much controversy, even with the stogies. =)

  23. Tom T. Feb 27th 2010 at 10:52 am 23

    There’s a backstory here. There is talk in Olympic circles about eliminating women’s hockey, because the US and Canada are so dominant, like the Summer Games did with women’s softball. So Canada is worried that bad publicity about the women’s team will worsen that situation.

    Notably, no one ever talks about getting rid of sports where other countries dominate and the US is not competitive, but that’s the way of the world, I guess.

  24. Freezer Feb 28th 2010 at 05:10 am 24

    Piggybacking on what Kate C (#4) said: Would this have gone beyond a mere “story” if they hadn’t included the historically “masculine” beer and cigars? I’m of the firm belief that it’s the “unfeminine” behavior that’s given some the vapors, other than any “unsportsmanlike” conduct. . [/conspiracy]

  25. mkilby Feb 28th 2010 at 11:24 am 25

    P.S. The ice resurfacer I mentioned was an “Olympia”, and as it turns out, they actually did replace it with a Zamboni. See: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/vancouver/speedskating/2010-02-16-oly-bad-ice_N.htm

  26. padraig Feb 28th 2010 at 05:56 pm 26

    Zamboni. There IS no substitute.

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