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LOL-January 25

Cidu Bill on Jan 25th 2010

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48 Responses to “LOL-January 25”

Powers Jan 25th 2010 at 07:16 am 1

Wait, so Adam and Eve didn’t know how to have sex until they ate the fruit?
Rasheed Jan 25th 2010 at 07:52 am 2

Pretty much. They did not know they were naked previously, then gathered leaves and stuff to hide themselves, God asked what they were doing, and who told them they were “naked.” I don’t remember any actual sex talk offhand, it’s been a long time since Theology class.
Nicole Jan 25th 2010 at 08:00 am 3

Powers #1 — there are some people who believe just that.
Nicole Jan 25th 2010 at 08:08 am 4

Rasheed #2 There is no sex talk, but many believers think that sex was actually the ‘original sin’
Silviya Jan 25th 2010 at 09:07 am 5

Hm…
Many people MAY get confused, cause actually Eva was punished with labor pain for the original sin. But the original sin was never mentioned to be having sex in the first place.
What the connection between labor and having sex is though is a mystery in the Bible
src666 Jan 25th 2010 at 09:52 am 6

Many of the sects talk of being “born of original sin” - i.e. the original sin (sex) is how you got made, so you are born a sinner, and it’s up to you to redeem yourself of your parents’ mistake.
Karl Jan 25th 2010 at 10:01 am 7

“born of original sin” is because we are fallen, all are under original sin. Sex (in marrage) is not and never was a sin. Kind of hard to obey God’s be fruitful and multiply without engaging in sex.
Frank the curmudgeon Jan 25th 2010 at 10:26 am 8

Out of the mouths of babes and Adam.
Tim Jan 25th 2010 at 10:36 am 9

Adam and Eve were told to multiply (Gen 1:28) before the “original sin” and the fall (Gen 3:6). Sex (in marriage) is not sin (Heb 13:4). The Bible also states clearly that you do not inherit sin from your ancestors (Ezek 18:20).

There are a lot of groups that teach otherwise, but the Bible is clear.
Cornbread Jan 25th 2010 at 10:51 am 10

It all depends on whether you think of the story as a metaphor, and if so, what it’s a metaphor of. If you only believe it literally, then “original sin” is just the sin of disobedience for eating the fruit that was forbidden. Others view the story of the fall as a metaphor for the loss of a child’s innocence when he or she grows up, and part of that loss of innocence is becoming sexual.
Nicole Jan 25th 2010 at 10:58 am 11

Tim #9

The bible is equally clear that you do inherit sin from your ancestors

# (Exodus 20:5) - “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,”
# (Deuteronomy 5:9) - “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, and on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,”
# (Exodus 34:6-7) - “Then the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in loving kindness and truth; 7who keeps loving kindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations.”
Soup Dragon Jan 25th 2010 at 12:19 pm 12

Historically, there has been weird Christian cult that meant sex was sin anyhow, even in marriage. Well known is the Cathars : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism . I’m sure they had a bunch of bible quotes to back up their case, just as Tim has. Anyway, no wonder they didn’t prevail …
Arvy Jan 25th 2010 at 12:21 pm 13

A case could be made that any use of the phrase “the bible is clear that…” deserves the “lol” tag.
firedmyass Jan 25th 2010 at 12:26 pm 14

Hmmmm… punish something you created because it expressed a trait you specifically designed it to possess. Neat.
Tristara Jan 25th 2010 at 12:30 pm 15

My mother believes that the “curse” is actually the agony of loving a child that isn’t perfect, and the pain mothers feel watching children make mistakes while growing up. It’s supposed to mimic the pain (in a small way) that the Creator felt when His creation chose the wrong path but He loved them anyway.
Nicole Jan 25th 2010 at 12:50 pm 16

So … lets get this straight — the creator makes Adam and Eve without the knowledge of good and evil, then tells them not to eat the fruit from a particular tree. Not understanding that disobeying God would be evil, Eve goes ahead and eats the fruit and gives some to Adam who also doesn’t understand that eating it is evil. Even though Adam and Eve didn’t understand that disobeying god is wrong — cause that is the way they were made - God gets angry at them and punishes them and ALL of human kind by casting them out of the garden. Is that right ?
Elyrest Jan 25th 2010 at 01:10 pm 17

“God gets angry at them and punishes them and ALL of human kind by casting them out of the garden. Is that right ?”

Nicole (16) - You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Keera Jan 25th 2010 at 01:14 pm 18

Whatever, #1 thru 16. For me this is one of The Far Left Side’s best comics because of Adam’s thought bubble. ROTFLOL!
Rammy M Jan 25th 2010 at 01:17 pm 19

@ Nicole #16
That’s synchronicity with the punchline in comic #2
paperboy Jan 25th 2010 at 02:06 pm 20

firedmyass#14 and Nicole#16- Yeah; the Adam & Eve story does sound like the writers didn’t think through the logic holes in the plot. Must’ve had a dead-line.
Kate C Jan 25th 2010 at 03:03 pm 21

Well, going off topic, that Dirty Harry meets Rainman strip is not only funny, but also somehow so obvious, I can’t believe I haven’t thought of it myself.
Elyrest Jan 25th 2010 at 03:13 pm 22

Kate C (21) - You’re not off topic at all. I thought the same thing when I first saw it. I can hear Hoffman’s and Eastwood’s voices so easily too. Made my day.
Jeff S. Jan 25th 2010 at 03:49 pm 23

Nicole @16 — Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
firedmyass Jan 25th 2010 at 04:04 pm 24

Kate C @ 21 - Agreed. Same with “Learner’s Permit to Kill.”
nonegiven Jan 25th 2010 at 04:36 pm 25

I thought the original sin was taking the fruit from the tree
Nicole Jan 25th 2010 at 05:20 pm 26

Eleyrest # 17 — living in paradise or getting up every morning and going to work becuase your gret great great great great …. grandparents ate a piece of fruit …

Rammy M # 19 — LOL — I didnt’ make the connection … but I should have

Jeff s #23 sarcasm ???

nonegiven — I supose original sin is actually the disobeying of god’s command not to eat the fruit. None the less, many groups have interpreted original sin to be sex.
Andrew Jan 25th 2010 at 07:48 pm 27

I’m just curious as to whether or not Tina’s granny’s using a real alphabet, and if so, which one it is.
Mark in Boston Jan 25th 2010 at 07:50 pm 28

Milton explains it all in Paradise Lost. Adam and Eve have sex before the Fall, discreetly in their little house. “God bids us increase,” says Adam. They do it out of obedience. Presumably they enjoy it.

Then, just after they eat the fruit, they get ideas and try out all kinds of perversions, right out there in the open. After that, they are ashamed.

I wonder why there’s never been a movie version of Paradise Lost. It would be X rated like “Caligula”. It’s also got a great battle scene in it, with the angels ripping mountains off the earth and throwing them at each other.
Lola Jan 25th 2010 at 09:37 pm 29

IIRC Shaker couples didn’t have sex at all. The men lived separate from the women. Good way to doom any movement. I don’t know enough about them to know whether it’s because they considered it sinful, but I’m guessing that it figures in there somewhere. I also think this is why the Catholic church is so adamantly against birth control. The breeding members have to make up for the celibate or they’d die out by attrition.
Jeff S. Jan 25th 2010 at 11:25 pm 30

Yes. Sarcasm. It’s allowed… or so I hope.
Nicole Jan 26th 2010 at 06:14 am 31

Jeff S. # 30 — Oh yes … and in some cases encouraged

just checking before I went on a ‘rant’
Ian Osmond Jan 26th 2010 at 08:28 am 32

There ARE interesting theological discussions of the implication of putting a Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the middle of a garden, where people don’t know the difference between Good and Evil and CAN’T know the difference, and then counting “learning the difference between Good and Evil” as evil.

Me, I don’t see it that way. I see it as an extended metaphor on the idea of humanity being partners in our own creation, and finding a way to accept the burden of free will, out of our own free will. I don’t see “being thrown out of the Garden” as punishment, but rather as “what humans are supposed to be”. There’s this whole world out there; it’s pretty obvious that we weren’t “supposed” to just live in the Garden, but rather live in the world. And yet, we are the only creatures that have to live with the burden of thinking about morality.

So I see the story as a way to have humanity CHOOSE to live with morality — which is what God wanted in the first place, but it would be an unfair burden to IMPOSE on someone.
Nicole Jan 26th 2010 at 09:09 am 33

Ian #32 … I am not sure of your actual belief .. so forgive me if I misinterpret

If god wanted us to be able to choose morality, then why not create us that way from the start ?

As ‘your money or your life’ is no choice, a choice of either my way or everlasting torture is no choice at all.
Arvy Jan 26th 2010 at 11:37 am 34

On the subject of choices that aren’t…

Anyone else see the cover of “In Touch” magazine with Sarah Palin, her daughther, and their babies with the quote “We’re glad we chose Life?”

I’ve got to believe I’m not the first person to make this observation, but if they consider abortion murder, how can they even say they chose anything? Isn’t she essentially saying “I’m glad we chose not to murder our babies,” which basically implies that she must have at least considered doing it?
Elyrest Jan 26th 2010 at 12:35 pm 35

If we have no choice, but to leave the Garden of Eden by sinning, there is no choice. If Christ was meant to die on the cross to pay for our original sin, that we had no choice over making, it just compounds the misery that man was never given a choice in the first place. We have to feel guilt over the original sin and more guilt that God gave us his son to die for our sins that we never had any choice in making.

Arvy - You’re right. If you don’t believe in abortion you are not choosing life. You have no choice. Again.

My head hurts now.
Nicole Jan 26th 2010 at 12:45 pm 36

Elyrest #35 you are right, but it is much simpler than that — god knows everything — since god can’t be wrong then what he knows about my choices must happen - therefore I have no free will.
Elyrest Jan 26th 2010 at 01:04 pm 37

Nicole (36) - So, if we have no free will we can’t technically sin. Therefore Christ died for nothing, but guilt. Where would we be without guilt? Countless mothers would be lost!
Nicole Jan 26th 2010 at 01:27 pm 38

Elyrest — we can sin, but since god created us knowing we would sin, he wanted us to sin (since he could have stopped it or simply not created us) … but if he wanted us to sin… it isn’t a sin … if it isn’t a sin then Christ didn’t have to die …. OH you are right
Keera Jan 26th 2010 at 01:44 pm 39

See, the problems Christians have is why I like Eastern philosophies. Karma makes a lot more sense to me than sin.
Mark in Boston Jan 26th 2010 at 06:46 pm 40

So God created man, purposefully creating him to have free will and to be rebellious. And God had full knowledge that man was rebellious and given one and only one command would break it. And God, knowing full well what would happen, put man in the garden and gave him one command and then got all angry when he broke it.

What do we learn from this, students?

1. God will set you up to fail.
2. God will punish you severly when you fail.
3. God is cruel.

Next week we will study the Book of Job and learn how God will do evil things to you just to win a bet, and then get angry with you and yell at you even when he wins.
paperboy Jan 26th 2010 at 07:40 pm 41

Here’s the facts: God is all, but can’t create other consciousnesses. He can make Himself forget and imagine a universe where there are others, who seem to do unexpected things, until his memory returns. Yes, YOU are God; all others are merely aspects of yourself. You are writing this to yourself. Do you remember yet, or does the game go on?
Nicole Jan 26th 2010 at 08:27 pm 42

Paperboy #42 .. um facts ????? Evidence ????
arvy Jan 26th 2010 at 09:43 pm 43

Mark, technically you are correct. Every intentional action (or inaction) represents a choice. But I would contend that there are a great many actions for which the average person would honestly answer “x isn’t even an option,’ and if something isn’t an option then you can’t honestly say you chose not to do it.

I think people would be horrified (and rightly so) if Palin had said, I’m glad I decided not to suffocate my baby after it was born, but if one believes that abortion is murder then I fail to see how one can explain the difference between that and what she really did say.
Cidu Bill Jan 26th 2010 at 09:54 pm 44

Arvy, perhaps Palin feels that believing in “right to life” is itself a deliberate choice.

Which is certainly not unreasonable, give the number of people who think that homosexuality is a deliberate choice.

(or… maybe they just choose to believe it’s a choice)
Winter Wallaby Jan 27th 2010 at 03:22 am 45

Paperboy, when I created this universe, I had intended your comment to be the culminating point of all existence. Now that I actually see the comment, I feel a little let down. It’s not really what I had envisioned. Ah, well, back to the drawing board. Maybe next time around I’ll have you post your comment in boldface.
Nicole Jan 27th 2010 at 07:41 am 46

Winter Wallaby #46

I don’t know what you are talking about … the fact is magic invisible purple rats in tu-tus created the universe with pixie dust In their wisdom they created you to think that you created the universe.

PS… I know what you are thinking …here is the answer — If you could see them they would be purple — I am happy to help on this point of theology.
zbicyclist Jan 27th 2010 at 10:51 am 47

We may think God is infinite, all-powerful, etc. but that may just be because we don’t understand Him very well.
Rammy M Jan 27th 2010 at 10:56 am 48

@zb I concur

It’s like little kids saying “well my dad can beat up your dad, he’s so amazing he can do MAGIC and … ANYTHING”

“my god can beat up your god, he’s so amazing he can do MAGIC and … ANYTHING”

Well your dad can do some “trick”s but he certainly can’t do “ANYTHING” (ie “everything”), and your view of god is just as childish.

Anyway that’s my theology (or one of them)

R