White-Out
Cidu Bill on Jan 5th 2010
Mitchell Marks sent this one for my collection. In case anybody doesn’t get it, global warming means everything’s going to get warm, so this is irony.
Filed in Bill Bickel, comic strips, comics, global warming, humor | 36 responses so far
The Bad Seed Jan 5th 2010 at 09:30 am 1
Argh! I’m so tired of people who just don’t get it, and people who seem to revel in their own ignorance! Who wants to bet that the people who believe that global warming/climate change is total crap also tend to be birthers?
Ooten Aboot Jan 5th 2010 at 09:55 am 2
At least these lame global waming gags are a change from the marooned-on-a-desert-isle cliche. Just as well, because all those desert isles will soon be inundated.
Its Justme Jan 5th 2010 at 10:10 am 3
Comments from the Climategate emails:
From Phil Jones (modification of data to hide unwanted results):
“I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.”
From Kevin Trenberth (failure of computer models):
“The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”
Fried Jan 5th 2010 at 11:08 am 4
The hoax has been revealed…..
Sili Jan 5th 2010 at 11:24 am 5
Do they really still have only those two quotes? For such a big hoax, one’d think there was more evidence in all those mails.
Word to the (not so) wise, focus on the desire to avoid FoI requests, that’s the nearest thing to wrongdoing in there. I understand it, but I certainly can’t condone it (incidentally - did anyone at CRU actually then delete any emails? It seems pretty stupid to do so and then keep the request.)
MellowCake Jan 5th 2010 at 11:55 am 6
For your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg
Its Justme Jan 5th 2010 at 12:09 pm 7
Not the only quotes, just some of the most damning. Does climate change happen? Of course. Is it anthropomorphic? The evidence just isn’t there. If it is, why has average temperature decreased the last decade instead of following human carbon energy consumption increases?
Nicole Jan 5th 2010 at 12:33 pm 8
Not to be repetitive … lets for a moment we assume it is all a big hoax … there is, in fact , no global warming, no climate change … nor for a moment lets assume that we went ahead with some of the remedies for climate change anyway … less pollution, development of green jobs, development of alternative energy sources, cleaner cars etc …. the bad part about that is ????
Elyrest Jan 5th 2010 at 12:49 pm 9
Nicole (#8) - I agree with you wholeheartedly. People seem to think wanting to have a better world is some vast conspiracy to do them in. The fact of the matter is that there are limited resources and if we don’t figure out how to handle them better now it’s going to be a grimmer world for future generations. If we in the U.S. had continued with some of the energy measures that were started in the late 1970’s we wouldn’t still be groping along now moaning about gas guzzlers. Our country is like a person on a diet. We can lose the weight for a while, but the minute we stop it all comes piling back on.
Nicole Jan 5th 2010 at 12:55 pm 10
clearly climate change is a plot by the tree huggers to clean up the environment ….. bwaaaa haaaa haaaa
Eric Jan 5th 2010 at 01:02 pm 11
Thanks, MellowCake. Nice video. This is why I don’t watch televised “news.” It’s easy to get caught up in what they’re telling you.
Mark M Jan 5th 2010 at 01:11 pm 12
Maybe, just maybe, not every artist who does a comic about global warming is ridiculing the notion that it exists. Yes, global warming is very debatable. Yes, these types of comics about global warming are getting old. It’s just a new twist on an old joke. A comic during good economic times about a couple eating out of a can and saying “What economic boon?” has the same effect. It doesn’t mean the artist doesn’t think there is an economic boon, just reversing what the reader would normally think. No need to get your panties in a bunch if you happen to believe global warming is real and man is contributing.
paperboy Jan 5th 2010 at 01:36 pm 13
Mark M#12 nails it to the wall. It’s not an editorial cartoon, just a cartoon.
Sili Jan 5th 2010 at 02:28 pm 14
Sorry, Bill, but it seems I getting SIWOTIS.
*BZZZZZT*
That’s exactly what they’re not. I can only conclude that you have made absolutely no attempt to understand what’s going on, and are just spouting whatever soundbites your minders are feeding you. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. Thank you for playing. Have a nice day.
My! How openminded we are all of a sudden.
No, because burning fossil fuel really does only emit rainbows and unicorn farts. And CO2 does not absorb infrared radiation. And the world is getting hotter because GOD is hugging us tighter, because he lurrrrrrrves us so much.
Ten years =/= climate. Also you need to say twelve years by now since the El Niño event was in 1998. For the past ten years it has been getting warmer. Not that that matters, because a decade is still too little time to determine a trend. Really, you can’t even get the “WARMEST YEAR EVER *RARRGH!* right? What sorta denialist are you? Lazy or stupid?
paperboy Jan 5th 2010 at 02:54 pm 15
Sili#14- Jeez, you gotta calm down. People are not going to voluntarily stop emitting carbon, you’d need a world-wide dictator to command it. Most people like technology, but won’t think of the long-term consequences. ( the electricity that allows me to send this very message is produced by burning fossil fuels) It’s hard to convince people of impending danger.
Its Justme Jan 5th 2010 at 03:57 pm 16
Wow Sili, your cogent argument has convinced me. I see the light! I repent of my heretical beliefs.
My point was not that the past 10 years prove there is no climate change. As I said before, climate does change over time, there’s ample proof of that. What the 10 years does question is why, while energy consumption and carbon production is expanding at exponential rates, there is not a correlation in temps?
Talk about openmindedness, have you ever considered that there may be other reasons for the climate to change? That’s rhetorical.
GROG Jan 5th 2010 at 05:28 pm 17
ARTIST NO BELIEVE GLOBAL WARMING
ARTIST THINK SNOW PROVE GLOBAL WARMING NO EXIST
ARTIST WANT LOOK SMART MAKING GLOBAL WARMING “JOKE”
GROG HAS SPOKEN
FeelinOld Jan 5th 2010 at 05:44 pm 18
And just to feed the flames (Isn’t that contributing.. oh never mind)
My problem with the whole thing is the message that X IS caused by Y and WILL result in Z.
I don’t have a problem with theory being presented as theory, but have a REAL problem with theories being presented as “FACT”, it was a fact the earth was flat (still is by some counts) the earth was the center of the universe etc. etc.
Of course a lot of this complaint arises from press more than the actual researchers who are often misquoted.
turquoise cow Jan 5th 2010 at 07:39 pm 19
I will say, regarding the comic, that this a gimmick that has grown tiresome over the last few years. Yes, it snows. Yes, this would seem to contradict the global warming idea (even though global warming is/would be a long drawn out process, not one that would immediately erase winters in a single year). No, this isn’t funny. It wasn’t funny before and it isn’t funny now. Thank you.
Regarding global warming, I merely have this to post:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
Cidu Bill Jan 5th 2010 at 08:48 pm 20
The issue here isn’t whether or not global warming exists or why, but rather each cartoonist’s belief that he’s the first person to think of the “global warming means it shouldn’t be snowing” gag.
Not to mention that again, whatever your beliefs on the matter, a reasonably educated person must know by this point that “global warming” does not mean “you’re supposed to get less snow.”
John DiFool Jan 5th 2010 at 09:12 pm 21
“My point was not that the past 10 years prove there is no climate change. As I said before, climate does change over time, there’s ample proof of that. What the 10 years does question is why, while energy consumption and carbon production is expanding at exponential rates, there is not a correlation in temps?”
Selective endpoints fallacy.
And I see another scientific illiterate has thrown in the hoary old “it’s just a theory” canard into the ring.
Jeff Jan 5th 2010 at 09:24 pm 22
There’s also another “global warming” comic
http://comics.com/lola/2010-01-05/
Nicole Jan 5th 2010 at 10:01 pm 23
Yes I know that I posted this before
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=528_1260893033
But I like it and it think it speaks to CIDU Bill’s point @ 20
It does seem the only argument that many people who don’t believe global warming have is that “there is still winter”
Nicole Jan 6th 2010 at 08:11 am 24
I just found out that in Albany NY, the annual snowfall is four inches below normal … clearly global warming is real.
Tim Jan 6th 2010 at 11:13 am 25
Chuck Shepherd’s “News of the Weird” blog has a section called “News that Used to Be Weird, but Now Happens So Regularly, It’s Not Weird Any Longer.” Might I suggest that CIDU adds a new tag, “Punchlines That Have Appeared So Regularly, They’re Not Funny Anymore.” I know I’m getting tired of the Global Warming discussions, too, and I’m on the other side of the aisle. These strips can still get posted, but the discussion will start out from the standpoint, “Man, I can’t believe this is that same gag AGAIN!”
Keera Jan 6th 2010 at 12:48 pm 26
I tell you, with all the heat turned up in Europe (and India and China) to combat the extreme cold of this winter, if we didn’t have global warming before, we should be getting it now.
Sili Jan 6th 2010 at 02:17 pm 27
I never claimed that people should stop enjoying the fruits of technology over night. But that still does not mean that emitting CO2 is a good thing, and that we shouldn’t out best to stop it.
That’s one of the more amusing things about the Gore hate: if he lives a comfortable modern life, he’s a hypocrite; if he advocates living in teepees and holes in the ground, he’s a dirty hippie.
Awwww. How cute. You think I’m trying to debate you. *patpat*
12 years! Twelve! Look at the graph. The temperature topped in 1998. For God’s sake get your strawmen straight.
At the risk of engaging in tu quoque, have you? I find it very amusing how the the general tenor of the denial has moved from “there’s nooooooo warming - brrrrrr, I’m freezing” to “Duh! There’s warming, but weeeeee don’t have anything to do with it”. I can certainly see why I should take you talent of prophesy seriously. I’m sure William Miller would be very proud of you. (My answer, not that anyone cares, is yes, I have looked at the alternatives - those I know of at least - and none convince me. That’s the trouble with a background in the sciences - I actually know stuff.)
Awww. It knows big words.
Keera Jan 6th 2010 at 02:42 pm 28
Sili, could you have this debate in e-mail, please?
Powers Jan 6th 2010 at 02:56 pm 29
No no, this is funny.
RHJunior Jan 6th 2010 at 03:49 pm 30
Well, sweetpea, you might have a point— if EVERYTHING wasn’t getting colder. Record lows all over the globe, and even the temperature in the upper atmosphere is dropping.
Global warming alarmists basically shot themselves in the foot the day they started claiming, a la’ “The Day After Tomorrow,” that global warming (which is All Man’s Fault, never you MIND all the changes prior to the industrial age) would cause a new ICE AGE.
You’ll forgive us skeptics if we started making fun of GW fanatics while we shoveled two feet of Global Warming out of our driveways…..
S.P. Charles Jan 6th 2010 at 03:55 pm 31
And… just like that, after 30 responses, we’ve come full-circle to the concept of “we have a lot of snow on the ground today and therefore global warming doesn’t exist.”
Sili Jan 6th 2010 at 05:40 pm 32
[Citation needed]
The stratosphere, you mean? You know, the one that’s predicted to cool if more heat is retained by the growing concentrations of CO2. (Not that the Sun has been churning out more heat systematically, but if it had, that would have caused global warming AND stratospheric warming. Funny thing, there was a plan to send up a satellite to closely monitor the energy output from the Sun and the Earth - woulda answered once and for all the extent to which the Sun influences climate. The observatory was built and everything, but unfortunately it was backed by Gore, so the Bush-administration killed it first thing. Can’t have those pesky facts getting in the way of Teh Truth.)
Nicole Jan 6th 2010 at 06:38 pm 33
RHJunior @30 — so we reduce pollution and develop alternative energy — again what is bad about that ?
It amazes me that not one denier has addressed this question
[Fran]cisco Jan 6th 2010 at 10:47 pm 34
@Sili #32 and @Nicole #33
I am *so* in Sili’s camp that I’m tired of saying so.
@Keera #28
I don’t think Sili’s the one who started this kerfluffle.
@ALL of ya!
Man, I love this blog — I may not comment often, but I love the dynamic of the community! Thank you CIDU Bill for making it all possible! (Even if site has run for ~15 years with $5/year net income, or was that $5/month.)
J Jan 12th 2010 at 05:26 pm 35
Trying to make an response in this blog AND make someone else upset is like bobbing for water…you can’t miss!
Elyrest Jan 12th 2010 at 05:48 pm 36
J - Have you got the wrong blog?