Well, unless you’re going to that restaurant afterward…

Cidu Bill on Dec 1st 2009

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19 Responses to “Well, unless you’re going to that restaurant afterward…”

  1. Chuck Dec 1st 2009 at 02:43 am 1

    I’m rooting for the bull, too. Disgusting sport.

  2. Kedamono Dec 1st 2009 at 03:39 am 2

    Technically, the Bull can win in Spain. He then gets’ to live out his life as a stud at a stud farm. Not a bad retirement plan I’d say.

  3. Powers Dec 1st 2009 at 08:03 am 3

    “Ah, you see, Senor… the bull does not always lose.”

  4. Nicole Dec 1st 2009 at 08:48 am 4

    Kedamono — what if someome made you a similar offer, fight someone, who you are not allowed to kill (yes I know it happens sometimes) but is allowed to kill you. Your opponent has spears to jab you with . If you ‘win’ you get to stud for the rest of your life. Would you take the offer ?

  5. Susan T-O Dec 1st 2009 at 10:12 am 5

    I know that the bull can technically win, but what are the criteria? It’s easy to tell when the bull loses–I mean, he’s dead, right?–but how long does the fight go on before someone says, “OK, that’s it, the matador has lost. Off to the stud farm, Mr. Bull”? Guess I could probably Google it. . .

  6. Bob Dec 1st 2009 at 12:05 pm 6

    Powers - one of the all-time classics!

  7. Elyrest Dec 1st 2009 at 01:28 pm 7

    I have to admit that I don’t understand CIDU Bill’s header - “Well, unless you’re going to that restaurant afterward…”. Can someone explain?

  8. furrykef Dec 1st 2009 at 01:29 pm 8

    Susan T-O — despite the joke referred to in the title, I don’t think a bullfight is meant to be viewed as a contest with a winner and loser. However, a matador has a limited amount of time to kill the bull (15 minutes in the final phase of the fight) or he has failed. In that case it’s not really that the bull has won so much as the matador has lost, so to speak — it’s like telling him, “You suck, get out of here.”

    Occasionally the presidente will allow the bull to live in the case of a very exceptional performance, which could be considered “winning”, but it doesn’t mean the matador has lost. A bull who has been spared will never return to the ring, because they learn from experience, and the matador’s strategy depends on the bull having no experience.

    - Kef

  9. mkilby Dec 1st 2009 at 02:01 pm 9

    @ Elyrest - I think Bill is highlighting the incongruity of “killing bulls in the arena is inhumane” versus “killing bulls for hamburgers is humane”.

  10. Elyrest Dec 1st 2009 at 02:07 pm 10

    Ah, thanks mkilby. It was the use of “that restaurant” that a found confusing. If it said “a restaurant” I think I would have understood.

  11. Cidu Bill Dec 1st 2009 at 02:13 pm 11

    The headline was in fact a reference to a classic joke (which came to mind when I read the comic). Powers nailed it.

  12. paperboy Dec 1st 2009 at 03:35 pm 12

    Shouldn’t we celebrate cultural diversity?

  13. Dyfsunctional Dec 1st 2009 at 10:29 pm 13

    I first heard the joke in Portugal: A man goes into a restaurant every Sunday after the bull fight and says, “Jose! Give me the specialty of the house,” at which point he is brought a plate with two huge, steaming bull testicles. One day, he goes in and makes his request and is instead brought two of the usual, only much, much smaller. “Jose! What is the meaning of this?,” he asks. Two which Jose responds, “I’m sorry, senhor, but as you know, sometimes the bull wins.”

  14. fuzzmaster Dec 2nd 2009 at 01:15 am 14

    In southern France, the odds are in the bull’s favor. In that form of bullfighting, a bunch of unarmed men in light clothing climb into the ring facing a bull that’s got some ribbons tied around its horns. The idea is for some of the guys to taunt the bull into a charge, while one of the others runs out in front of the bull and tries to reach back with a kind of clawed brass knuckles to snag one of the ribbons.

    Usually, the claw guys end up having to leap over the wall and onto the railings of the stands. Sometimes the bulls even make it over the fence and all the hangers-on have to scramble. In most of the fights I’ve seen, the bull still has at least a few ribbons at the end, and the bullfighters are looking pretty pooped.

    And, yeah, I cheer for the bulls.

  15. Seth Finkelstein Dec 2nd 2009 at 06:46 am 15

    “Then the picadors of course,
    Each one on his horse,
    I shouted “Ole!” every time one was gored.”

  16. Powers Dec 2nd 2009 at 07:51 am 16

    The version of the joke I’ve heard involved a visitor to Mexico inquiring about the large round delicacies served at the restaurant next to the arena. Told what they were, he makes arrangements to acquire the next fight’s spoils but is disappointed by their size when they come. His query is answered by the quotation in my previous post.

  17. Jeff S. Dec 2nd 2009 at 11:02 am 17

    I Googled the quoted line and got this version –

    Joe traveled to Spain and wandered into a Madrid restaurant one night for a late dinner. He ordered the house specialty and was brought a plate with potatoes, corn, and two large meaty objects: O O

    “What’s this?” Joe asked.

    “Cojones, senor,” the waiter replied.

    “But, what are cojones?” Joe asked.

    “Cojones,” the waiter explained, “are the testicles of the bull who lost at the arena this afternoon.”

    At first Joe was disgusted; but being the adventurous type, he decided to try this local delicacy. To Joe’s amazement, it was quite delicious. In fact, it was so good, Joe decided to return the next night and order it again. This time, the waiter brought out the plate, but the meaty objects were much smaller: o o

    “What’s this?” Joe asked the waiter.

    “Cojones, senor,” the waiter replied.

    “No, no,” Joe objected, “I had cojones yesterday and they were much bigger than these.”

    “Senor,” the waiter explained, “the bull does not always lose.”

  18. Jeff S. Dec 2nd 2009 at 11:03 am 18

    I like the visual aids in this version… OO compared to oo

  19. Dan Dec 3rd 2009 at 04:20 pm 19

    Good explanation, Jeff S.!

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